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on this episode of skeptico

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there you are

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and a show about when to come back

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we can't make everyone aware we just we

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just the default is everybody sleeping

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and now I'm gonna try to wake up as much

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as I can and if I meet others on my

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journey who also seek that or have some

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ability to do that or has shown to do

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that to some extent I'm gonna hitch my

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bag into that person as long as that's

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useful for both of us

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that first clip was from the wonderful

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Christmas movie Shutter Island and the

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second was from today's guest the one

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and only Al Borealis from Forum Borealis

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who joined me or I should say I joined

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him to talk about 20 22 year in review

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for both skeptico and for Forum borealis

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now as some of you may have noticed I

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have taken a step back from the mic on

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skeptico haven't done episodes in a

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couple of months so it was really great

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to get back in touch with Al and to talk

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about the year in review and the reasons

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why I stepped back and some of my

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thoughts on when and if I should

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continue and in what form I should do so

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so I enjoyed the chat it did bring up

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some stuff for me as I continue to work

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out and figure out where I want to go a

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process which I would really really

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appreciate you all joining me and

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telling me what direction you think this

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show should go in it is my personal

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Journey but it's shared with you so I'd

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like to know your thoughts on it but

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before we can get to that we have to

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listen to the year in review with my

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special guest Al Borealis from Forum

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borealis

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and welcome to this swap casting or

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annual review of the year with skeptical

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well actually after the end of the year

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you were you know so kind to do the

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anniversary show well that's right

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so that was quite a

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quite an event on my uh on my 22

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calendar so uh that was great yeah

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that's how we uh that's how we entered

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this year actually great and Chris yeah

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and you know I have been I have backed

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off of the mic lately I have not done a

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show in a couple months and that might

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be something we're going to talk about

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as well because I'm trying to

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find my way forward in in this journey

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and in the way that I'm trying to do it

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so uh we've got a number of things to

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talk about that is interesting I I I've

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done the complete opposite I've never

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made as many shows as now my listeners

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are even shocked that they got three

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shows this month

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from being lagged far behind in the

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beginning of the year and going through

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some very time consuming personal issues

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we don't have to get into yeah yeah I've

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turned around the ship I know I'm ahead

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great and I've even started catching up

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on YouTube so so that's interesting that

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we took such a different turn there

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but where do you want to start for today

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well you know the format we did last

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time I thought had legs but then we

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could change it as well last year we did

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three significant moments from form

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Borealis and interleaved those with

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three significant moments for me from

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skeptico and then with and I've already

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teed you up with this some predictions

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because I have gone back and listened to

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those predictions you made from last

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year and you have not wanting some

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serious ball busting is coming warning

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yep going

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no you got the gist of it yeah so what

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did I say I forgot I completely forgot

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all all of it I think we should I think

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we should hold it off until we get to

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the predictions at the end okay I I did

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and you know we could we could start

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there we could start anywhere you want

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because I have some interesting thoughts

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on the simulation Theory

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as well but uh we could start there yeah

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you wanted to talk with me on or about

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it so let's start there well why don't

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you then start by telling folks about

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your conversation with Riz verk and how

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that went and you know what you pulled

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out of that for for folks who listen to

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form Borealis sure it's not that much to

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say though

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such a great show and usually when I

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hear a great show I think it's done it's

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done there's no way for me to there's no

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point for me to reiterate what was just

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done but this was one of the rare

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exceptions where despite that I heard a

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perfect show and I'm talking I think

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second I was kind of disappointed with

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the second but the first was the gold

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standard in my book for this topic so I

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thought can I contribute here can I

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expand on this and I was thinking yeah

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maybe I can tie it more to the classical

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view which I really what I I add her to

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but the lines between them are fairly

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thin actually so I did I did rehash

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everything with him he basically made

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many of the same points as in the part

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one with you but yeah I got I got to

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inject some of my two cents and and

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that's that I think it's a great show I

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did I'm not just sure it was an

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unnecessary show

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then use told me something oh I want to

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discuss it you were pretty stoked on the

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that hypothesis for a while earlier this

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year but you never told me what it is

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that you were fired up about

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so if you remember

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well you know first thing I have to say

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is I think you're downplaying the show

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you did a fantastic job and I remember

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telling you that you know you were like

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hey I wasn't sure I should go into this

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for all those reasons it's been done and

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no you guys covered so much territory

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and you did bring your unique

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perspective to it and kind of bounce

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that off of him and you know the

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interesting thing just so we remind

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people who resverke is because he's this

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super interesting guy yeah very

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technically competent uh it's one of the

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founders of the MIT Massachusetts

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Institute of Technology game lab you

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universities in the world certainly in

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the United States and here is a guy who

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is just right in the inner workings of

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that and was super successful as an

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entrepreneur as a game developer right

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so he has this Advanced degree from MIT

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and he's a game developer and I think he

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sold like something like 20 000 apps

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game apps before he was 25 years old

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yeah so very competent very rich and

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then you know went on to do Venture

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Capital deals and stuff like that but

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also this name rizwan verk we don't even

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not Burke it's the full Indian you know

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15 syllable kind of thing but they

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personally shortened it for the rest of

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us but he's very knowledgeable on

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traditional Indian spirituality and he's

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writing a book on that right now is it

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Yogananda the Yogananda folks have kind

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of hired him to do something so I think

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you guys had a lot to connect with on

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that show you know I'm happy I'm gonna

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have him back for his second book which

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is more the Multiverse take and I want

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to say another thing that I didn't get

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to say in that show and that's that he's

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all this but for our listeners take note

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he is also the producer of some great

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Indie movie documentaries one of them is

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Thrive what on Earth does it take or

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something like that is the title and the

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other one is serious about free energy

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so it's really a good a so-called angel

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investor a good guy

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okay so there's two parts of that angel

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investor and good guy they don't always

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go hand in hand but I'll take your he

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seems like a good guy he seems like a

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light versus dark kind of person

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although we all make up both elements of

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that which is something we can talk

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about you know the the pushback I had

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with uh with Riz and I still have with

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the simulation hypothesis is it's

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stretching the metaphor I kind of think

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the other term I always use is back door

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materialism if the Ultimate Reality that

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we're discovering scientifically is that

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we should not rely on our understanding

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of time and space which is what the

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science comes back and tells us that's

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what quantum physics tells us over and

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over again is don't trust your

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measurements because they can get all

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screwed up with entanglement and

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experimental effect and double slit and

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all that stuff it just comes out says

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don't trust your version of reality well

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we can't accept that fully and then turn

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around and say oh but it is a computer

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simulation and because computers are in

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time space right computers by definition

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are in time space they cannot be

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otherwise the computer is constantly

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measuring time it's constantly slicing

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it into these little slices and

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arranging it in a linear fashion so we

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can't come to the scientific conclusion

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that we're coming to over and over again

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is that Consciousness is somehow outside

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of space-time

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and then try and jam it back in and say

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yes but it is a simulation and that

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simulation is essentially a computer

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that is in space-time I'll get that

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see this is why I always regard the

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computer as a red herring when I am

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correct when I emphasize this Theory I'm

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not concerned about the computer the

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only reason we need that is so to get

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the materialist on board to open up

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enough to try to comprehend it and and

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if that's achieved then we can leave the

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computer the interesting thing with the

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computer hold on hold on hold on hold on

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hold on I can't let you go on that no

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because you're kind of you're kind of

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Slip Sliding there it is how would you

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construct the simulation quote unquote

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without a computer certainly uh Riz

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isn't RIS his book which you guys talked

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extensively about is again and again

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painting or drawing our attention to the

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parallels between

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computer simulation as he is part you

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know he as he's deeply involved with

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from a gaming perspective and our

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reality as we understand it the

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rendering of reality yeah I'll answer

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that I knew you were I got it I got that

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was where we were going and my attempt

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to to explain that is as follows

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now if you look at a computer let's see

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what it really does in this case it um

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interferes with our senses it is a

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generator that creates boundaries for

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our senses so it create patterns it

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creates geometric experience so it

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partitions space so to speak now for me

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the computer is not key to this theory

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for me the computer is a metaphor in

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this Theory more than a metaphor it's an

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analogy because

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you can have something generating the

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experience of space

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interfering with those frequencies of

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our sensors and our senses I'm talking

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our Consciousness here because it's not

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in the perception channels itself it

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happens it's in the experience of the

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impulses that the perception channels

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generate for us so a computer is a crude

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material low frequency kind of attempt

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it's like we are Stone Age people and

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just picking up the club and we're

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looking at this as a tool of course it's

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a very rudimentary tool it's still a

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tool if you

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open yourself to perspectives like

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divinity or to down higher Dimensions

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Etc

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then we're talking about something

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generating boundaries

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and manipulating light

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so that those frequencies which we for

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some suspicious reasons are limited to

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makes us experience this illusion of of

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a 3D

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40 if you're at time reality that's

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basically what's going on that is the

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generator now if you want to call that a

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computer if you want to call it the you

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know the Finger of God whatever but it's

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something created is something generated

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that is manipulating our perception of

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existence is actually limiting our uh

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perception of exactly the same thing

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would happen if we had and we don't have

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and I don't know even if we get there

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but if we had advancing of computers two

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manipulators so that we forget

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where we are and we think we're inside a

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new reality that mission achieved you

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understand no wait a minute see you yeah

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I understand but you're again kind of

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mashing a bunch of stuff together that

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doesn't necessarily go together and this

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is when I had the pushback my pushback

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on rizz was you're stretching the

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metaphor too far aren't you stretching

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the metaphor too far and he didn't kind

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of like that because people who really

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are into the simulation Theory do not

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believe that it's metaphorical they

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believe you kind of went around the

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world there with your thing because when

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you wound up at the end was eventually

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there might be this super computer that

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really does do the simulation which is

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where rizz is going all that though is

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dependent on chopping up space and time

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and measuring [\h__\h] so you can't have it

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both ways you can't say it's a crude

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metaphor but it's also the correct

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metaphor once we advance technology

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enough so I I I just think we have to to

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be more precise in what we're saying if

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you and where I where I land on it is

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that the Ultimate Reality that I think

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you and I have a sense for is

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so much greater yeah yeah that it can

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never be reduced down to this puny

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simulation computer is it no no uh I

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will go officially understand saying I

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don't believe we are trapped in a

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computer game what I'm saying is I think

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we could create a computer game that

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could trap our Consciousness not our

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Consciousness in terms of no the cause

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to it but if you put someone physically

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in jail Alex

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and they only have like five uh quadrant

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meter to move about you're kind of doing

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the same thing you're confining their

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perceptions which will influence their

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Consciousness which is why people get uh

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destroyed so take take Nelson Mandela

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and lock him in solitary confinement for

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two years and what do you get you get

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this extraordinary human being who comes

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out and says it was nothing true I

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traversed the universe and I came to

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this Mahatma Gandhi in the same cell and

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what does he say it was nothing I

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traversed the universe these aren't the

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run-of-the-mill people these are the

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exceptions it doesn't matter they are

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not the exceptions that ability to they

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are Neo no they are not they are they no

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they are all of us the light shines

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through all of us the power is within

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all of us and we merely we're just

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trying to figure out better ways to

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refine it tap into it and move it but

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now you're missing you're missing the

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point man uh the point no I'm I'm making

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the point the point is don't buy into

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this idea that they are going to be able

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to limit our Consciousness by jabbing Us

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in the arm by sticking a VR thing around

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our eyes or any of the rest of this the

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the the field of Consciousness that we

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are a part of is an infinitely infinite

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times greater brighter more more Dynamic

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than any of this puny stuff and we may

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not be experiencing that on a day-to-day

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level because you know this is a pretty

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heavy time that we're in but to me I'm

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not speaking like a preacher I'm

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speaking it this is the real this is

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your reality as well this is what the uh

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esoteric the the the Deep wisdom has

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told us all along is that everyone has

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the ability to transcend yeah I agree

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but the the the challenge for the

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controllers the satanists that whatever

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you want to call it the materialists the

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transhumanists is to try to reduce that

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effect that's greatly annoying to them

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that

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everything always points to

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Consciousness Consciousness is key Mind

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Over matters plate or beating up

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Aristotle on a daily basis but that

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doesn't mean Aristotle can't find some

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devices to trick people into because

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this is the thing if we are Gods then

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it's all about making us forget that we

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are Gods actually making us believe we

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are not Gods actually making us believe

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that a ruler is good that's the story of

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history of mankind yes so what I'm

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saying about the computer is that yeah I

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totally think they can invent the

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computer that I don't know sedate

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someone whatever you do to make them

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forget

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uh or break down their identity and then

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wake up in this

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I could see that 10 years down the road

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20 down years down the road that the

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potential of such a technology could

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exist I'm not saying that makes a new

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world and this world is great no it's

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going to be a but a shadow of a shadow

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of the world we're living in but who's

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to say we're not already living in a

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shadow of a shadow because you have gone

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deep into near-death experiences

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everybody ex describe it as how Neo

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would uh describe it if he woke up from

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the Matrix it's like a total new sense

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of reality it's like more real than this

430
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reality but then it's also this uh

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this ecstatic feeling of you know coming

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home all that stuff so yeah in many ways

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this fantastic brilliant beautiful

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reality we're in now

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you need to try to imagine that that as

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good as it is can be but a shadow of an

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even greater reality and in that

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perspective I can Envision something

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worse than this reality a deeper hell if

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you like that do absolutely we can

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create because we can create health I

442
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don't know about paradises we don't have

443
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a good track record for that but we have

444
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a good crack record for hell so yeah we

445
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could make a lower vibration mirror I

446
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suppose so below but that doesn't mean

447
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it's identical it just means that it's a

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spiral and that you know 10 o'clock on

449
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every spiral is the same only on lower

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levels so yeah I think we can create

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lower levels of reality I think we can

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immerse ourselves into that I think it

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can be used against us it doesn't have

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to be a good thing and I think that's

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just uh this uh principle the sign of

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reality because there's nothing human

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beings can do or can't do that's not

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already

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a potential template for so if we do

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something it means it's already allowed

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in existence and yeah I think we can

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imitate the Creator and do a diabolic

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kind of mockery of creation which is the

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transhumanist's wettest dream right

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well

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I have a lot to say about transhumanism

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and that could be one of the the moments

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one of the moments from 2022 of skeptico

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and it definitely would be one of my top

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moments but you seem well tell me where

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form Borealis has run into the

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transhumanist agenda and how that has

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spun for you in 2022 well uh more than

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anything uh via covet of course that's

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where where we all see it and

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and you've seen those alien blood clots

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people are infected with yeah it's

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insane it's been in the papers here too

479
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but this year I've done something I

480
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haven't done uh since I started I've had

481
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three UFO shows this year oh wow I know

482
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four if you if you lump in the

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simulation Theory because that can fit

484
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with everything right so and I I think

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UFOs also tangents the transhumanism

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topic but I think we should start with

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the traditional segue to it you had a

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great show where the Mr Cox this Brit to

489
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run Stern what's it called um

490
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Consciousness deep State Consciousness

491
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podcast yeah the Richard Cox thing

492
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um so I guess I figured out how to get

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you to listen to skepticals I just have

494
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to schedule an end of the year no no I

495
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have listened to skeptico this year but

496
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um I've heard half of that show

497
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and it's very interesting you know those

498
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who deny the virus uh one obvious

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hypothesis is that they are running into

500
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the classical Flat Earth crap right that

501
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they become yes that they because they

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know the powers that be in any area know

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that there will always be a certain

504
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amount of opposition it doesn't matter

505
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even if they're right there will be

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opposition so how can we how can we

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derail most of his opposition they

508
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always have to

509
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muddy the waters like vaccines the

510
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number one psyop trap inside the vaccine

511
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there's microchips or something like

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that right and nobody really believes

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that but that's how you derail all

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vaccine criticism and I see that totally

515
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the same could be done by viruses that

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okay if people deny there's a virus then

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they deny themselves out of the debate

518
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and we've taken care of most of the

519
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criticism the criticism will be stronger

520
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if these people hadn't you know divorced

521
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themselves from this reality so I

522
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totally get your point there

523
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well you

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you maybe do but if we're I we kind of

525
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jump to a different topic because I

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think transhumanism relates to a a

527
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another issue and we'll get back to that

528
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with Dean Raiden what dedic is yeah

529
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that's phenomenal it's it's it's well it

530
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speaks directly to the transhuman issue

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so I don't know if we should jump there

532
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but you brought up the no virus thing

533
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yeah let's do the covet things at first

534
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okay so let's get it over this so it

535
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doesn't take the whole show okay well it

536
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it still might wind up taking the whole

537
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show because it's really kind of a major

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turning point for me kind of one of them

539
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one of a handful of moments on skeptico

540
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that I can really point to that totally

541
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changed my perspective on everything

542
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um do I have the ability to play a clip

543
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into the show right so let's play this

544
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:31,400
and see how it goes

545
00:24:42,049 --> 00:24:37,669
rabies

546
00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:42,059
a woman shouldn't have to be hit by a

547
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,460
car to learn that she may have rabies

548
00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:47,520
but that is where we are in America

549
00:24:54,529 --> 00:24:51,480
and that does not sit right with me and

550
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:54,539
that is why I am hosting a Fun Run Race

551
00:25:00,289 --> 00:24:57,120
for the Cure for rabies to raise

552
00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:00,299
awareness of the fact that there is a

553
00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:03,299
cure for rabies a disease that has been

554
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:06,840
largely eradicated in the U.S but not

555
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:08,940
very many people know that

556
00:25:14,510 --> 00:25:11,700
there is simply no proof that there is a

557
00:25:16,970 --> 00:25:14,520
virus called rabies that causes the dogs

558
00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:16,980
to go nuts there's just there is no

559
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,100
scientific proof of that that's a story

560
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,020
so of course that first clip was Steve

561
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,000
Carell from the office but the second

562
00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:26,700
one was from today's guest Michael

563
00:25:32,090 --> 00:25:29,159
Wallach who joined me to talk about his

564
00:25:34,730 --> 00:25:32,100
new documentary series The Viral

565
00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:34,740
delusion hope you enjoy the show

566
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,559
okay so a lot to talk about I guess I'm

567
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:39,360
going to try and jam it all in here

568
00:25:44,990 --> 00:25:41,640
because I've opened this can of worms

569
00:25:47,149 --> 00:25:45,000
yeah here's the moment for me I as you

570
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:47,159
know from the last end of your show we

571
00:25:54,590 --> 00:25:51,120
did I kind of stepped into this pile of

572
00:26:01,490 --> 00:25:54,600
material on the ground last year in 2021

573
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,090
um

574
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:04,559
who I can interview Tom Cohen I

575
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:06,900
interviewed a doctor Tom Collins who is

576
00:26:13,130 --> 00:26:10,559
a viral denier and uh before that I

577
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:13,140
interviewed David Ike who really kicked

578
00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:14,700
the thing off and everybody knows David

579
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:16,799
Ike but what Paul what happened I heard

580
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,260
one show with you back in the uh when

581
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:21,360
Kobe was strong and there was this guy

582
00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:23,340
you were discussing mosque Tom Cohen

583
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:25,980
that was cool yeah yeah so the the

584
00:26:30,890 --> 00:26:28,320
origin of this to just kind of do the

585
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,900
whole thing uh David Ike I had David Ike

586
00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:32,159
on the show and I've always thought

587
00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:34,740
David Icke was so incredibly he's like

588
00:26:38,510 --> 00:26:36,779
so many of these figures in this alt

589
00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:38,520
media community that we're a part of

590
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:41,580
where he he's done incredible incredible

591
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:44,580
body of work he's opened people's eyes

592
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:48,360
Minds hearts up in so many ways but he

593
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:50,340
also seems to dump a lot of [\h__\h]

594
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:52,740
along the way he's either self-diluted

595
00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:55,380
or he just I don't know what the deal is

596
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,840
but anyways I'm interviewing him and I

597
00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:00,000
go hey you seem to be pitching this I

598
00:27:05,149 --> 00:27:02,760
know virus thing I go come come on David

599
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:05,159
what what's up with that I said even you

600
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:07,260
back when they did the swine flu thing

601
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:09,659
said that this is a manufactured bio

602
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:12,779
weapon why have you and it in typical

603
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:15,720
David I fashioned he was kind of like he

604
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,720
had to pause and remember that yeah that

605
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,600
was he he was right you know he was

606
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:23,520
right with the swine flu 10 years ago

607
00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:26,279
and now he's been hoodwinked into these

608
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,740
crazy no virus people who say you know

609
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:31,200
there is no virus it's terrain Theory

610
00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:32,880
you know germ theories out trying to

611
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:34,740
certainly was that interview Tom Cohen

612
00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:37,740
the most hated interview I've had people

613
00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:39,659
like my God you didn't let this guy talk

614
00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:42,360
you know ah you shut him down and it's

615
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,799
part of this thing I have of don't

616
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:46,080
suffer fools gladly you know and that

617
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:47,760
has come up that has been one of the

618
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,279
themes of the last half of 2022. the

619
00:27:54,289 --> 00:27:51,840
Bible might be full of [\h__\h] but there's

620
00:27:57,169 --> 00:27:54,299
a lot of good stories in there and one

621
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,179
of those great stories is when well Paul

622
00:28:03,250 --> 00:27:59,760
writes these letters to these outlying

623
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:03,260
camps who've heard the good news and he

624
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,480
sarcastically says oh but you guys

625
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,640
wouldn't care because you suffer fools

626
00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:11,039
gladly you don't mind if people come on

627
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,799
and say all sorts of stupid things that

628
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,080
you're meeting so what do I care kind of

629
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,480
thing and I it's worked its way into our

630
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:20,640
society we all understand you know some

631
00:28:24,769 --> 00:28:22,740
people think we should suffer fools

632
00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:24,779
gladly if you want to be up and be a

633
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,400
knuckle dragger and talk about Flat

634
00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:28,559
Earth and you want to be Eddie Bravo

635
00:28:33,769 --> 00:28:30,659
who's the great guy and you want to talk

636
00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:33,779
to Joe Rogan great guy but they want to

637
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:35,400
be knuckle draggers and they're proud of

638
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:36,240
the fact that they're kind of

639
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:38,100
anti-intellectual and they've never gone

640
00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:39,659
to college and they don't really know

641
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:41,820
science but they're you know hey I got

642
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:43,260
an opinion everyone's got an opinion

643
00:28:46,909 --> 00:28:44,460
great

644
00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:46,919
the problem with that is that science

645
00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:48,360
does have something to bring to the

646
00:28:52,430 --> 00:28:50,400
table Yeah and the other because I don't

647
00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:52,440
really care about any of that [\h__\h]

648
00:28:58,970 --> 00:28:54,900
because everyone does have an opinion

649
00:29:00,010 --> 00:28:58,980
everyone can talk a debate you know

650
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:00,020
whether

651
00:29:06,409 --> 00:29:05,039
better downhill skiers and that's you

652
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,419
know you can sit around at the pub and

653
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,159
you can talk about that [\h__\h] all day

654
00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:10,620
long or politics or stuff like that what

655
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:12,900
I've always tried to do on skeptico is

656
00:29:18,889 --> 00:29:16,080
expose something deeper something on a

657
00:29:20,889 --> 00:29:18,899
spiritual level or something on a very

658
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:20,899
uh covert

659
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:23,940
manipulation misinformation level this

660
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:26,159
is all a lead-in Alan the reason I

661
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:27,240
wouldn't let you jump in there is

662
00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:29,100
because we gotta I have to finish this

663
00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:30,600
whole thing out and it's going to take

664
00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:32,760
another couple minutes sure

665
00:29:39,169 --> 00:29:36,299
so this is the lead-in to me constantly

666
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,179
being kind of barraged by these no virus

667
00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:41,760
people go Alex you know you're so stupid

668
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:44,700
there are no viruses there and I go that

669
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:46,740
is just ridiculous it's flatter science

670
00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:49,320
quit pitching that how can and and I'm

671
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:52,020
like you have to step up your game

672
00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:53,760
because you're dragging the whole system

673
00:29:58,909 --> 00:29:56,100
down in the way that you obviously saw

674
00:30:02,570 --> 00:29:58,919
you know they are dividing You by

675
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:02,580
creating this whole segment of wacky

676
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:04,620
conspiracy theorists that they can all

677
00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:07,380
point to and laugh and you're joining in

678
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,960
and letting them do it so finally I I

679
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,700
said if you have someone who's credible

680
00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:13,740
who wants to come out and talk I will

681
00:30:18,830 --> 00:30:16,440
actually have them on yeah long-winded

682
00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:18,840
story good or skeptical always taking on

683
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:21,659
anyone yes Al yes but this is where my

684
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:24,960
whole world changes somebody says here's

685
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:28,860
a guy he has this new documentary viral

686
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:32,100
delusion it's a well-made documentary it

687
00:30:38,769 --> 00:30:35,220
features a lot of credible it would seem

688
00:30:42,850 --> 00:30:38,779
real medical doctors so eye contact

689
00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:42,860
Michael Wallach and I I first

690
00:30:48,769 --> 00:30:46,679
I contact him and I first he agrees to

691
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:48,779
do the interview and he's very nice and

692
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:51,000
accommodating and I do assert a

693
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,620
background search on them and I don't

694
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:56,159
really find anything on Michael Wallach

695
00:31:01,549 --> 00:30:58,919
I go that's okay so then I send him an

696
00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:01,559
email and this was a little bit very out

697
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:03,899
of character with me but I wanted to

698
00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:06,240
find a way to just tell this story in a

699
00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:08,700
way that people would understand and I

700
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,620
thought the way to do it would be to say

701
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,679
to turn it to the rabies because we've

702
00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:15,840
all known for hundreds of years that

703
00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:17,820
when the dog you know dogs get rabies

704
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:20,460
right so I sent I sent Michael this

705
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,260
email and in the email I told him the

706
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:24,720
story about my dog when I was a kid who

707
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,940
played in the forest and then came back

708
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:29,039
and a few days later he was foaming at

709
00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:31,140
the mouth and we took him to the vet I'm

710
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:32,760
sorry your dog has rabies we have to put

711
00:31:38,269 --> 00:31:34,740
him down and I said oh that was so

712
00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:38,279
heartbreaking for me and Michael emails

713
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:40,980
me back and says sorry to hear about

714
00:31:46,909 --> 00:31:43,980
your dog your dog didn't have rabies

715
00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:46,919
there's no such thing as rabies your dog

716
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:50,460
probably had worms and at this point my

717
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,360
thought is this guy is [\h__\h] I mean

718
00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:57,120
this guy has limited uh that's when they

719
00:32:00,590 --> 00:31:58,980
to be honest that was my thought this

720
00:32:03,230 --> 00:32:00,600
guy has limited intellectual

721
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:03,240
capabilities and I should kind of take

722
00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:06,000
it easy on him in this interview because

723
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,820
in the process of making of exposing him

724
00:32:13,549 --> 00:32:10,320
I'm just gonna

725
00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:13,559
make everybody hate me even more so I do

726
00:32:18,169 --> 00:32:15,480
the interview with Wallach and if you

727
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:18,179
heard the intro to that interview that I

728
00:32:24,049 --> 00:32:21,120
just played there no no no no no he is

729
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:24,059
not a slack jot idiot he's incredibly

730
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,360
well spoken he's also a great at

731
00:32:30,889 --> 00:32:28,799
spinning stories he's a

732
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,899
conversationalist and he has a lightness

733
00:32:35,149 --> 00:32:32,820
about him and he tells and he's very

734
00:32:36,470 --> 00:32:35,159
well educated and this whole thing as

735
00:32:38,029 --> 00:32:36,480
I'm doing the interview you know you and

736
00:32:40,669 --> 00:32:38,039
I have done a lot of interviews we can

737
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:40,679
pick up a lot on people and I'm like wow

738
00:32:45,289 --> 00:32:43,500
what is going on here and then I do

739
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:45,299
decide to go into the rabies thing and I

740
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:46,980
go come on you know it's ridiculous we

741
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:49,440
all know I mean rabies really and he

742
00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,899
just pounds it he pounds it home no

743
00:32:56,090 --> 00:32:53,820
there are no viruses and as a matter of

744
00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:56,100
fact you brought it up and rabies never

745
00:33:00,289 --> 00:32:57,659
existed in this night but here's the

746
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,299
point of the story I get off of the

747
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:03,120
interview and I go what is going on here

748
00:33:06,909 --> 00:33:05,460
and I start searching and this is just

749
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:06,919
bad

750
00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:10,200
poor uh background checking on my part

751
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:13,799
but I search for Mike Wallach

752
00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:17,399
suddenly Mike Wallach pops up Mike

753
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:19,620
Wallach has an undergraduate degree from

754
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,260
from the top ivy league schools in the

755
00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:24,960
United States Mike Wallach has a

756
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:28,260
master's degree from Colombia and if

757
00:33:34,690 --> 00:33:31,440
anyone's tuned into the alphabet soup

758
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:34,700
intelligence agency breeding ground

759
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:37,679
Colombia is one of the places Mike

760
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:40,799
Wallach had an internship with Barack

761
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:43,380
Obama where he was preparing briefings

762
00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:46,620
for Barack a fellowship can you do you

763
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:49,500
know how exclusive that would be do you

764
00:33:52,669 --> 00:33:51,240
know how many people out of a million

765
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,679
you're talking about that have an

766
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,960
undergraduate degree from an Ivy League

767
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:56,640
school master's degree from Columbia

768
00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:59,399
Fellowship that has them doing personal

769
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:01,799
presentations to Barack Obama but then

770
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:05,519
he leaves he leaves Washington to go to

771
00:34:10,070 --> 00:34:07,860
Hollywood to make films the first film

772
00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:10,080
he makes is with a major Hollywood

773
00:34:16,369 --> 00:34:12,899
director and the film you can watch that

774
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,379
I played her I gave to people is a

775
00:34:22,430 --> 00:34:18,960
horror film about a very infectious

776
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,440
disease that causes Panic among of a

777
00:34:25,609 --> 00:34:24,000
large part of the population I forget

778
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:25,619
the name of it it's five six years ago

779
00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:28,800
you can look it up his second film so he

780
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:31,800
is a fast track guy his second film

781
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:35,760
oh it's this hokey little viral delusion

782
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,220
thing that can't even be on any of the

783
00:34:44,329 --> 00:34:40,320
major platforms because it's too

784
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,339
controversial and is uh just directly

785
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:47,040
focused on talking to this little

786
00:34:50,510 --> 00:34:48,300
subgroup

787
00:34:53,149 --> 00:34:50,520
that you and I are familiar with this

788
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:53,159
little alt media subgroup that thinks

789
00:35:00,109 --> 00:34:56,639
there's no viruses was this before covet

790
00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:00,119
no this is uh 2022. um

791
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:05,640
so my world shifted because

792
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:09,599
I think I was talking to a guy who's on

793
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:10,619
the job

794
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:15,599
like it's an expression that they we use

795
00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:19,020
in the United States like when one cop

796
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:21,780
runs across another cop and the cops

797
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:23,760
undercover and he's doing something that

798
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:26,280
he's not supposed to be doing he goes

799
00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:29,040
pal I'm on the job and then there's a

800
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:30,540
wink and a nod and everybody just goes

801
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:33,839
on their own way so I don't know I have

802
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:37,680
no idea I have no idea is Mike Wallach

803
00:35:41,569 --> 00:35:38,880
on the job

804
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:41,579
I don't know does he really believe

805
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:44,220
everything in the viral delusion I have

806
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:47,220
no idea does he have an undergraduate

807
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:49,560
degree a master's from Colombia was he a

808
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,099
fellow I mean yeah yeah I so at this

809
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,920
point so the really the important

810
00:36:01,730 --> 00:35:58,800
afterthought and why I've paused kind of

811
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,740
skeptico is so I go and talk to Richard

812
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:04,079
Cox who also interviewed Mike Wallach

813
00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:06,300
Richard Cox who's been on my show

814
00:36:11,569 --> 00:36:08,579
multiple times Richard Cox who used to

815
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:11,579
work for me doing booking on skeptico

816
00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:13,920
because I like him and I honor and

817
00:36:19,609 --> 00:36:16,859
respect the work he's done he totally

818
00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:19,619
falls for the whole thing he totally he

819
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:22,920
is he's unshakable he's unshakable now

820
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:25,800
he's converted over to the I mean after

821
00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:27,599
after your interview with him because he

822
00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:29,460
wasn't that unshakable in the into

823
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:33,000
yourself he was unshakable yes he's kind

824
00:36:36,349 --> 00:36:34,560
of downplaying it he did his own

825
00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:36,359
interview with Mike Wallach he goes and

826
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:39,660
does presentations to Folks at churches

827
00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:43,440
or wherever showing wallach's film

828
00:36:48,290 --> 00:36:44,700
um

829
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,300
he is so the the this is where he's

830
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:51,119
invested in it yeah and so what does

831
00:36:55,849 --> 00:36:54,060
that mean what does that mean for you

832
00:36:58,910 --> 00:36:55,859
know you and I are sitting here talking

833
00:37:00,589 --> 00:36:58,920
about how they're doing this how they're

834
00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:00,599
going to do this and they're gonna man

835
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:02,579
it don't take much people start doing it

836
00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:05,400
to themselves so yeah he's always been

837
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:07,560
like that yeah what do you think of that

838
00:37:11,089 --> 00:37:09,240
whole whole story what do you what are

839
00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:11,099
your thoughts boom boy well we're

840
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:13,859
entitled to our own opinions but we're

841
00:37:18,890 --> 00:37:16,140
not entitled to our own facts I know

842
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:18,900
that's a cliche but it actually matters

843
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:21,359
so I was kind of following Richard Cooks

844
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,119
when he said like where is your I'm

845
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:26,400
sympathetic to that attitude where is

846
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:28,980
your pain threshold what would it take

847
00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:32,880
for you to re-assess a certain Paradigm

848
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:35,700
that you have been invested in right and

849
00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:37,560
I can tell you where it goes for me when

850
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:39,540
it comes to this virus things because I

851
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:42,960
haven't picked up this side show I

852
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,420
haven't monitored it enough so I don't

853
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:47,280
even know what their scientific argument

854
00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:51,660
is but I can make a case for the no

855
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,300
virus Theory uh without knowing what

856
00:37:59,390 --> 00:37:56,640
they're making and magically it will fit

857
00:38:00,530 --> 00:37:59,400
with the virus Theory too and it goes

858
00:38:03,130 --> 00:38:00,540
like this

859
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:03,140
there are scientific

860
00:38:07,069 --> 00:38:05,460
experimentation within the Forbidden

861
00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:07,079
parts of science with that I mean

862
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:10,200
everything to do with electromagnetics

863
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,079
and I forgot to tell you in our former

864
00:38:18,050 --> 00:38:15,839
topic that the electromagnetic scale may

865
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:18,060
be the closest we get to an existential

866
00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:21,420
computer but there is a fact that they

867
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:24,839
can monit they can measure viruses by

868
00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:28,079
vibration and this guy this genius

869
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:30,660
French man what did he get The Nobel

870
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,119
Prize for I forgot but he's really the

871
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,520
Vanguard of a frequency science which is

872
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:37,920
again a taboo part of science it went

873
00:38:42,349 --> 00:38:39,660
black after the second world war because

874
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:42,359
it decodes so much including UFOs

875
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:45,960
so they could he could transfer a virus

876
00:38:52,430 --> 00:38:49,920
via what was it radio or something with

877
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:52,440
taking the signature the vibration

878
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:54,740
signature beaming it

879
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:58,500
uh half or across the globe and then it

880
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,300
pops up in water which is a good

881
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,880
conductor right yeah at the receiver end

882
00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:04,560
now

883
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,599
some people may take this and run with

884
00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:09,119
it ah there's no viruses all viruses are

885
00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:11,339
just frequencies it's just dissonant

886
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,220
frequencies is frequencies that are in

887
00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:17,280
this harmony with the frequencies that

888
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:19,859
we need of Life blah blah they would be

889
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:22,260
right but you would also be right to say

890
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:24,420
no no there are still viruses because

891
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:27,780
this is the classical article versus

892
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:30,720
wave debate just in a new manifestation

893
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:35,300
so they are both vibrations frequencies

894
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:38,520
and there are also entities because when

895
00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:41,099
you measure the entities because

896
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:43,079
everything is vibrations so when you

897
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:46,200
measure anything's vibration you are

898
00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:47,760
talking about both particles it's

899
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:50,099
particles when you examine it in time

900
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:51,960
and space and where you don't examine it

901
00:39:55,609 --> 00:39:53,400
we're back to Quantum right to

902
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:55,619
shortening as cat then it's a potential

903
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,680
anything so I I always thought it was

904
00:40:02,510 --> 00:40:00,960
[\h__\h] if this was the argument that

905
00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:02,520
we're using because it's it's not an

906
00:40:06,349 --> 00:40:04,500
either or it's a both and yes it is

907
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:06,359
vibrations yes you can interfere with

908
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:08,820
viruses thanks to vibrations Tesla did

909
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:11,160
it Rife did it many did it and you can

910
00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:15,839
also kill uh or or dissolve those

911
00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:17,880
frequencies with vibrations but it

912
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:20,339
doesn't mean that when it manifests in

913
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:23,760
your body it doesn't behave like viruses

914
00:40:28,849 --> 00:40:26,040
and it spreads and infects like viruses

915
00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:28,859
yeah totally so I'm on both sides of

916
00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:31,260
that argument no I don't know if this is

917
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:33,780
can you explain to us basically the gist

918
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:36,900
of how they deny viruses is it this

919
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:39,900
angle or is it something else

920
00:40:47,089 --> 00:40:43,859
um I like I step back and look at the

921
00:40:51,170 --> 00:40:47,099
process of because I would it's

922
00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,180
analogous to uh Flat Earth in that what

923
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:54,240
it really is I think it's this Uber

924
00:41:01,069 --> 00:40:58,079
empiricism it's this it's the net result

925
00:41:02,329 --> 00:41:01,079
of what they've done in junkifying

926
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:02,339
science

927
00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:14,040
say that the way that Flat Earth was

928
00:41:21,410 --> 00:41:18,300
used was a setup for global warming and

929
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:21,420
a setup for covid right because if you

930
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:25,200
get people in their bones saying you

931
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:27,420
know it all nerds have screwed

932
00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:30,660
everything up I'm not trusting a damn

933
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,060
thing you're saying and let me give you

934
00:41:37,730 --> 00:41:35,280
the most in your face example of how

935
00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:37,740
much I don't trust you I think the Earth

936
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:42,900
is flat prove me wrong and that's all it

937
00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:45,960
takes and you just extend that so as it

938
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:48,900
relates to particularly terrain Theory

939
00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:51,060
versus germ Theory and we've talked

940
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:53,400
about it on the show but it's a

941
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:56,880
ridiculous proposition at the surface

942
00:42:04,010 --> 00:42:00,000
right it's the same as Flat Earth it

943
00:42:07,250 --> 00:42:04,020
doesn't deserve serious discussion and

944
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:07,260
to be to be drawn into whether or not

945
00:42:10,730 --> 00:42:09,420
because terrain Theory by the way you

946
00:42:12,290 --> 00:42:10,740
know and then the Richard Cox interview

947
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,300
it doesn't come out they also deny

948
00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:14,640
bacteria it's not like they just it's

949
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:17,460
it's not like they just deny uh viruses

950
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:21,240
bacteria is in there too you know so all

951
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:24,119
the all the thousands and thousands of

952
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,180
peer-reviewed paper and virology they

953
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:28,800
want to throw all that out the window

954
00:42:37,130 --> 00:42:33,180
but so it isn't like hey let's really

955
00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:37,140
try and understand their Theory no it's

956
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:40,320
like the famous guy said it's not even

957
00:42:48,410 --> 00:42:44,280
wrong it doesn't even rise to the level

958
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,420
of of that so the deeper part is how

959
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:51,359
does it function inside of the deception

960
00:42:57,530 --> 00:42:54,240
how does it function inside of the

961
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,540
misinformation system which you started

962
00:43:02,030 --> 00:43:00,000
with Al you immediately got that you

963
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:02,040
immediately we might not actually agree

964
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,720
one hundred percent on that but that's

965
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:05,760
immediately where you went which is like

966
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:08,640
oh okay this is another way to

967
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,060
you know divide and Rule yeah people no

968
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:14,160
I I see that potential reality the

969
00:43:19,309 --> 00:43:16,140
problem here Alex is that we are trying

970
00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:19,319
to decode I wish we were like limited to

971
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,540
baseball it would be so much easier to

972
00:43:25,069 --> 00:43:23,160
discuss but we have like a

973
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:25,079
multi-dimensional perspective when we

974
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,300
discuss anything you and me and

975
00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:29,280
obviously within the socio-political

976
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:32,940
reality or if you want to indulge the

977
00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:36,300
[\h__\h] expression conspiracy theory or

978
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:40,500
hypothesis yes obviously this whether it

979
00:43:47,150 --> 00:43:44,160
is or not it would be a wonderful psyop

980
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,160
and yes it would fit all the bills but

981
00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:49,680
my problem is I can I can play the

982
00:43:54,829 --> 00:43:51,660
devil's lawyer here if you like if you

983
00:43:58,430 --> 00:43:54,839
can handle that because I can go to I

984
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,440
can look at it ontologically and let's

985
00:44:01,670 --> 00:44:00,000
say you know let's indulge the

986
00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:01,680
hypothesis model

987
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:06,660
I mean the simulation model

988
00:44:10,569 --> 00:44:07,920
uh

989
00:44:14,329 --> 00:44:10,579
Earth can be flat

990
00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:14,339
spheric and Hollow at the same time

991
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,740
and you don't need to go to the

992
00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:18,720
computers let's go to the agnostics they

993
00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:20,520
said it's the Consciousness that matters

994
00:44:25,069 --> 00:44:22,740
so it's everyone believes that there was

995
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:25,079
a holy man who was sacrificed on a cross

996
00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:27,780
if that power base in the Vatican can

997
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,420
get enough people to Envision that with

998
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:32,760
their whole soul with all their senses

999
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:34,920
it's so real I can touch it I can

1000
00:44:40,210 --> 00:44:37,740
there's Jesus I can see him

1001
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:40,220
then it becomes real in a simulation

1002
00:44:46,609 --> 00:44:44,040
that's how weird reality could be I'm

1003
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:46,619
not now I'm not even talking about a

1004
00:44:50,089 --> 00:44:47,940
machine now I'm talking if you go to

1005
00:44:52,609 --> 00:44:50,099
agragos right and UFOs can be a

1006
00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:52,619
manifestation Etc that's how weird

1007
00:44:58,730 --> 00:44:56,700
reality could be and in that same vein

1008
00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:58,740
you could also say that yeah it's

1009
00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:00,900
viruses and it's not viruses How many

1010
00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:02,940
believe it's viruses bomb it's shifting

1011
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:05,940
they say someone just got the Nobel

1012
00:45:09,890 --> 00:45:08,460
Prize for proving that the past doesn't

1013
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:09,900
exist

1014
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,440
so what on Earth are those traumas we

1015
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,359
are having what on Earth are these sweet

1016
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:17,520
memories we are having how can these

1017
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:19,560
those be generated and then stop

1018
00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:23,940
existing could we change or past by

1019
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,420
embracing intensely a new reality of

1020
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:29,520
what happened could you take a trauma

1021
00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:31,260
and then make it to some something good

1022
00:45:37,010 --> 00:45:33,240
for example and then that would start

1023
00:45:39,230 --> 00:45:37,020
manifesting and then Eternal now so the

1024
00:45:42,530 --> 00:45:39,240
now I'm I'm just exploding all

1025
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:42,540
boundaries okay in a paradigm I'm taking

1026
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:44,220
it this far now you want me to rewind

1027
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:46,920
back into that socio-political box I'm

1028
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:50,520
with you this is and if it's not a soil

1029
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:53,280
it immediately becomes one they hijack

1030
00:45:57,890 --> 00:45:55,200
it they invest in this they see how

1031
00:46:00,050 --> 00:45:57,900
useful for example Flat Earth Rebellion

1032
00:46:02,329 --> 00:46:00,060
is but you know they are not these

1033
00:46:03,950 --> 00:46:02,339
perfect Puppet Masters that we always

1034
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,960
Envision them to be they're bumbling

1035
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:05,520
things left and right all the time

1036
00:46:10,849 --> 00:46:09,119
because of either your argument The X

1037
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:10,859
Factor called Consciousness they're not

1038
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:12,060
in control of Consciousness

1039
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,480
Consciousness is like this Deluge Throne

1040
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:17,220
at them and they are desperately trying

1041
00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:19,980
to use duct tape to you know fill in the

1042
00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:21,720
holes and uh oh it's coming through it's

1043
00:46:26,329 --> 00:46:23,880
coming through okay bum over there this

1044
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:26,339
is how they're operating and many things

1045
00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:29,160
they're doing backfires if we go to

1046
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,560
traditional politics I love the Duran

1047
00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:33,359
he's a shout out for the Duran if you

1048
00:46:38,809 --> 00:46:36,900
want some sober analysis just within the

1049
00:46:41,150 --> 00:46:38,819
geopolitical realm that's it nothing

1050
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,160
alternative beside that but they have

1051
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:43,200
they gave us the straight facts and then

1052
00:46:47,569 --> 00:46:45,780
we can opinate around it and we see how

1053
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:47,579
the bungling now bricks is taking over

1054
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,880
for the petrodollar and this is going

1055
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:53,040
against the great reset it's going

1056
00:46:56,829 --> 00:46:54,720
against the

1057
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:56,839
western or

1058
00:47:01,550 --> 00:46:59,520
anglo-american Elites so they are not

1059
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,560
these perfect Puppet Masters in fact I'm

1060
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:03,599
with them our friend

1061
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:04,160
um

1062
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:08,400
uh Schneider on this he thinks that all

1063
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:10,980
this inbreeding and you know they needed

1064
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:12,839
people like Epstein

1065
00:47:17,390 --> 00:47:15,300
who actually they need people who are

1066
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,400
competent because they are utterly

1067
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:19,140
incompetent at this point they just have

1068
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:21,240
the power the will and the money and

1069
00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:23,400
then they need to

1070
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:26,040
um Circle uh have in their Circle

1071
00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:29,220
different kinds of geniuses who have no

1072
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:31,980
ethics who will Implement their vision

1073
00:47:37,069 --> 00:47:34,980
for them so okay I went all over the

1074
00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:37,079
place I'll shut up now and let you

1075
00:47:41,450 --> 00:47:38,339
comment

1076
00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:41,460
well bring it bring it home for me and

1077
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:43,319
tell me what you think about

1078
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,300
um how you think that how you think that

1079
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:47,520
relates

1080
00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:51,240
I think at a weird level anything could

1081
00:47:57,470 --> 00:47:54,060
be possible if enough people believe it

1082
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:57,480
uh or become possible uh that what would

1083
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,180
you do with that understanding see

1084
00:48:04,609 --> 00:48:02,400
because to me that's always like a good

1085
00:48:06,589 --> 00:48:04,619
good point yeah yep you know great

1086
00:48:08,809 --> 00:48:06,599
question because you know the answer to

1087
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:08,819
that is it doesn't matter

1088
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:10,920
what would I do with it it's an

1089
00:48:15,069 --> 00:48:13,500
information War so I would still behave

1090
00:48:18,290 --> 00:48:15,079
as if

1091
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:18,300
viruses are real the Earth is not flat

1092
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:21,000
and we have to fight for those ideas why

1093
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:22,920
because that's the shortest way to get

1094
00:48:27,890 --> 00:48:24,119
to the

1095
00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:27,900
Target to where I want Society to go it

1096
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:30,540
doesn't serve me or you or anyone else

1097
00:48:35,630 --> 00:48:32,160
that we have to take this enormous

1098
00:48:37,490 --> 00:48:35,640
detour around I can do it in private if

1099
00:48:39,950 --> 00:48:37,500
you you and me are sitting here having a

1100
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,960
coffee we can discuss okay what would it

1101
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,760
take for the earth to be round okay

1102
00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:44,400
because that has no consequence but if

1103
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:46,500
30 percent of the population believes

1104
00:48:52,730 --> 00:48:49,619
it's round and meanwhile they do they're

1105
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,740
doing deep level third dimensional chess

1106
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:54,960
Warfare on us

1107
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:57,960
oh my God we need that brain power you

1108
00:49:04,910 --> 00:49:01,440
know to what matters so I'm a both end

1109
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:04,920
guy here uh we should behave as if

1110
00:49:10,550 --> 00:49:08,640
uh things are as we think it is and and

1111
00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:10,560
continue fighting that battle because it

1112
00:49:16,190 --> 00:49:14,579
is also that this is also a reality and

1113
00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:16,200
this is where the battle is taking place

1114
00:49:20,770 --> 00:49:19,020
for example the battle is much more

1115
00:49:23,569 --> 00:49:20,780
served that we acknowledge our

1116
00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,579
coronavirus and we acknowledge that they

1117
00:49:29,089 --> 00:49:25,980
are [\h__\h] us up with the vaccines and

1118
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:29,099
we acknowledge that the pandemic has

1119
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:32,220
been poorly handled to put it morally

1120
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:35,460
if we do that that's what's serving the

1121
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,800
immediate battle going on but in

1122
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,319
addition I can see other potential

1123
00:49:45,950 --> 00:49:42,720
realities do you understand

1124
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,960
I do but I think you're climbing the you

1125
00:49:49,309 --> 00:49:47,280
know the last time we spoke for the end

1126
00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:49,319
of year you had a great metaphor about

1127
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:51,660
climbing the mountain and going around

1128
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:53,400
and as you get higher and higher you can

1129
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:55,380
see people further down below and some

1130
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:56,339
of them are just going around the

1131
00:50:00,829 --> 00:49:57,900
mountain again and again and again and

1132
00:50:01,730 --> 00:50:00,839
some of them are in fact even though

1133
00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:01,740
they're going around the mountain

1134
00:50:05,870 --> 00:50:03,300
they're kind of choosing the path that

1135
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:05,880
takes them higher and higher I agree

1136
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:06,839
with

1137
00:50:13,870 --> 00:50:10,440
what you said that we we do have to have

1138
00:50:16,849 --> 00:50:13,880
discernment in terms of uh bracketing

1139
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:16,859
reality which is the way I put it there

1140
00:50:23,930 --> 00:50:19,680
is a consensus reality here in in that

1141
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:23,940
consensus reality viruses do exist and

1142
00:50:30,349 --> 00:50:27,300
cause disease in that bracketed reality

1143
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:30,359
at the same time we have a very

1144
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,079
incomplete understanding of viruses and

1145
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,140
we have a medical industrial complex

1146
00:50:42,349 --> 00:50:40,079
that has exploited The Limited

1147
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:42,359
understanding we have of viruses and

1148
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:44,520
they've Twisted it and turned it and

1149
00:50:49,790 --> 00:50:46,380
developed all sorts of misinformation

1150
00:50:52,609 --> 00:50:49,800
the whole HIV AIDS thing is real there

1151
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,619
is a real dispute there in terms of what

1152
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:54,720
is the relationship between the testing

1153
00:51:01,370 --> 00:50:58,559
for HIV and the AIDS virus I had a guy

1154
00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:01,380
on seven years ago on skeptico and he

1155
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:03,240
said that he said you know the numbers

1156
00:51:08,569 --> 00:51:06,300
do not make any sense the pure numbers

1157
00:51:11,150 --> 00:51:08,579
that we could back on the demographic

1158
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,160
numbers people go to Henry Bower shouted

1159
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:14,160
for a great show yeah so so I'm down

1160
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:16,740
with the fact that they are screwing

1161
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,099
with the data because they don't really

1162
00:51:25,069 --> 00:51:22,800
know what's going on with viruses but

1163
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:25,079
that doesn't we're saying the same thing

1164
00:51:30,430 --> 00:51:27,000
here that doesn't give somebody

1165
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,440
permission to jump outside

1166
00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:33,119
jump outside of the bounded consensus

1167
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:36,180
reality and say hey man maybe you know

1168
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,599
there's no such thing no that we have

1169
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,760
this bounded consensus reality and then

1170
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:43,440
we have all this stuff there's a time

1171
00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:45,780
and a place for every debate right they

1172
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:48,780
are polluting the real debate here with

1173
00:51:54,130 --> 00:51:51,240
that thing it doesn't belong in the

1174
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:54,140
coveted policy debate seriously it

1175
00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:57,900
belongs in you know pipe smoking Society

1176
00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:00,839
cigar smoking Societies in front of the

1177
00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:03,720
fireplace but the real but the real

1178
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:06,780
problem for you and I Al is that one

1179
00:52:12,890 --> 00:52:09,540
once we jump out of that discussion and

1180
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:12,900
say okay you're a deeper thinker let's

1181
00:52:15,950 --> 00:52:14,880
really talk about the mountain you know

1182
00:52:18,250 --> 00:52:15,960
because that's what it's really about

1183
00:52:21,470 --> 00:52:18,260
and our path up that mountain

1184
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,480
well then now we have to come back and

1185
00:52:27,170 --> 00:52:24,000
say you're using terms like battle and

1186
00:52:29,930 --> 00:52:27,180
that and does that really make any sense

1187
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:29,940
from a mountain perspective are we

1188
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,000
really battling you know the it does to

1189
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:35,040
say I'm not sure that I'm not sure that

1190
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:37,140
it does I'm not sure I'll tell you why

1191
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:40,260
because there's a million uh forces who

1192
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,140
want you to not uh land that mountain

1193
00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:46,079
and they want to lure you back into the

1194
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,220
woods

1195
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,520
so only for that

1196
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:52,140
and you know it's an individual it's an

1197
00:52:57,670 --> 00:52:53,579
individual Journey too it's not a

1198
00:53:02,530 --> 00:53:00,230
I probably am not pronouncing that in a

1199
00:53:06,049 --> 00:53:02,540
way that anyone who really understands

1200
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:06,059
but I love the the translation that may

1201
00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:10,079
the light in virtue in my heart be

1202
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:14,520
victorious to me that is the only real

1203
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:17,579
battle okay the only real battle is I

1204
00:53:23,569 --> 00:53:21,000
have the light and The Virtue The

1205
00:53:26,329 --> 00:53:23,579
Virtuous in my heart okay but brother

1206
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:26,339
let me rephrase it then there's also a

1207
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:28,980
million forces inside you who wants to

1208
00:53:32,329 --> 00:53:30,660
you know right around that mountain so

1209
00:53:34,370 --> 00:53:32,339
there's always going to be a battle ice

1210
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:34,380
path whether it's outside or inside it

1211
00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:36,000
doesn't matter it's all the same ice

1212
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:37,400
bath

1213
00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:38,940
hahaha

1214
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:42,359
no but look man it's uh the corporate

1215
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:46,200
reality is super important because

1216
00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:49,200
um yeah you you've been following the

1217
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:51,660
development and I have a hellish

1218
00:53:57,049 --> 00:53:55,260
scenario for you and that's that and and

1219
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,059
I don't know what I predicted last year

1220
00:54:02,450 --> 00:53:59,520
but I suspect I should have predicted it

1221
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:02,460
for the coming year because uh we have

1222
00:54:09,290 --> 00:54:05,839
now a situation where

1223
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:09,300
uh there may be a lot of deaths

1224
00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:10,980
accumulating I don't want to make it

1225
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:14,099
into some doomsday scenario but um

1226
00:54:20,690 --> 00:54:17,460
it's incredible uh you know how how

1227
00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:20,700
immediate how literal all the naysayers

1228
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:23,700
and the anti-vectors if you look at it

1229
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:26,520
objectively it's taken a really left

1230
00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:27,420
turn

1231
00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:30,540
and time for time for prediction time

1232
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,280
for reminding you of your prediction

1233
00:54:37,010 --> 00:54:34,319
from last year

1234
00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:37,020
you ready yep because it relates

1235
00:54:40,010 --> 00:54:38,280
directly to what you're talking about

1236
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:40,020
your prediction at the end of the last

1237
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:43,260
year's show was that this is Al speaking

1238
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:46,260
I think omnichrome could be the Silver

1239
00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:48,900
Bullet not your language but say and you

1240
00:54:53,569 --> 00:54:50,819
you really expounded on in a really

1241
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:53,579
interesting way because we were talking

1242
00:54:59,210 --> 00:54:56,400
about how the Western world was

1243
00:55:01,549 --> 00:54:59,220
vaccinated but Africa wasn't vaccinated

1244
00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:01,559
it wasn't vaccinated not to the extent

1245
00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:03,720
that they would have liked anyway and

1246
00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:06,119
where does omnichrome seem to kind of

1247
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,180
emerge out of these areas that have

1248
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:12,000
resisted vaccination for long periods of

1249
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:14,280
time and you said I think this could be

1250
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,680
a game changer because you know herd

1251
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,839
immunity natural immunity blah blah blah

1252
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:20,640
but then you also painted the dark

1253
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,339
scenario but it could turn the other way

1254
00:55:29,089 --> 00:55:25,920
and that they just further kind of

1255
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,099
double down on the whole thing yeah I

1256
00:55:33,470 --> 00:55:31,440
would so I would take your prediction

1257
00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:33,480
which isn't you kind of covered all the

1258
00:55:37,849 --> 00:55:35,400
bases so I don't know if you really get

1259
00:55:39,890 --> 00:55:37,859
total credit for that but I think you

1260
00:55:41,569 --> 00:55:39,900
pointed us in a really important

1261
00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:41,579
Direction and I think that direction

1262
00:55:47,230 --> 00:55:46,140
applies here yes the vaccine has uh

1263
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,240
probably

1264
00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:49,920
dealt of really severe blow to the

1265
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:52,800
immune system of hundreds of millions of

1266
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:54,720
people there's no question about that

1267
00:56:03,410 --> 00:55:58,559
yeah God has a couple tricks up his

1268
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:03,420
sleeve too he has ways that and he I'm

1269
00:56:07,790 --> 00:56:05,099
obviously I don't believe that there's

1270
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:07,800
some entity in on the cloud with the

1271
00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:10,559
beard and ice with a dick yeah and I

1272
00:56:15,530 --> 00:56:12,420
certainly don't believe yeah you see

1273
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:15,540
right but the the you get the you get

1274
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:18,359
the idea is that no they they will not

1275
00:56:24,970 --> 00:56:21,300
they will not determine the future of

1276
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:24,980
mankind by their hokey little poorly run

1277
00:56:33,710 --> 00:56:29,640
project of manufacturing a bioweapon in

1278
00:56:36,049 --> 00:56:33,720
a lab that will not be the end of the

1279
00:56:37,609 --> 00:56:36,059
road they will not determine that it

1280
00:56:39,230 --> 00:56:37,619
will be determined through some other

1281
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:39,240
meetings yeah but have you heard the

1282
00:56:44,329 --> 00:56:40,400
news

1283
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,339
what's going on in Boston oh my God you

1284
00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:46,319
heard it right they're amping it up to

1285
00:56:50,809 --> 00:56:48,359
80 mortality

1286
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:50,819
and they're doing it with impunity yeah

1287
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:53,819
where the [\h__\h] are the pitchforks why do

1288
00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:55,920
you take kovid that was failed for

1289
00:57:01,490 --> 00:56:59,160
because if the pandemic is as diverse

1290
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:01,500
conspiracy hypothesis as saying that

1291
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:04,500
they wanted this or it was a trial run

1292
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,540
or whatever then now they have the

1293
00:57:10,430 --> 00:57:08,640
perfect thing because if the virus had

1294
00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:10,440
worked as they wanted us to believe it

1295
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:14,940
worked then uh these people who you know

1296
00:57:20,510 --> 00:57:17,280
the branch comedians who have cracked

1297
00:57:22,250 --> 00:57:20,520
their brains on on covet Fair everybody

1298
00:57:25,730 --> 00:57:22,260
will become like them it will become

1299
00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:25,740
hell on Earth fear is gonna run rampant

1300
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:27,720
because now we will have real real

1301
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:30,960
grounds for it because if 80 percent in

1302
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:34,020
reality 0.8 percent died and they would

1303
00:57:38,510 --> 00:57:36,900
have died if it was a hard flu too this

1304
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:38,520
we know now we didn't know it in the

1305
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:41,280
beginning but if 80 died which is what

1306
00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:42,720
they've done now with the covert virus

1307
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:45,900
in Boston right Jesus Christ man that's

1308
00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:49,440
hell well don't right that is uh that is

1309
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:52,800
a potential reality Ebola is another

1310
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,440
potential reality that we've lived with

1311
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:57,839
right that is a very high mortality

1312
00:58:03,530 --> 00:58:00,900
that's just 50 I think either way it's

1313
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:03,540
the end of the world yeah 50 or 80 does

1314
00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,099
not make a difference now if you have 50

1315
00:58:11,390 --> 00:58:07,920
or 80 it's still the end of the world as

1316
00:58:13,790 --> 00:58:11,400
we know it so the the other side of this

1317
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,800
which you know we could have we could

1318
00:58:18,349 --> 00:58:15,119
talk for a long time we could do a bunch

1319
00:58:20,569 --> 00:58:18,359
of shows but if if you look at where

1320
00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:20,579
we're going economically and we've

1321
00:58:25,130 --> 00:58:21,960
talked a little bit about the Bitcoin

1322
00:58:28,010 --> 00:58:25,140
and the crypto thing as part of that and

1323
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:28,020
I think it also relates to uh world

1324
00:58:34,670 --> 00:58:30,540
economies and uh currencies and stuff

1325
00:58:36,530 --> 00:58:34,680
like that the the end game there is not

1326
00:58:39,230 --> 00:58:36,540
turning out the way that they want

1327
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:39,240
they're not going to be able to print 30

1328
00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:43,260
trillion dollars in Echo currency like

1329
00:58:47,569 --> 00:58:45,780
they were planning on doing that was the

1330
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,579
plan you mean human digital currency

1331
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:49,680
right what did I say

1332
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:52,799
I don't know what did you say echo echo

1333
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:55,680
you know the environmental uh carbon

1334
00:59:02,089 --> 00:58:58,500
trading all right it's the same it's

1335
00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:02,099
yeah it's the same stuff right so and

1336
00:59:07,490 --> 00:59:05,160
now we have China on the ropes in terms

1337
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:07,500
of you know what's going on with

1338
00:59:10,970 --> 00:59:09,720
who knows what's up with Biden and the

1339
00:59:16,210 --> 00:59:10,980
chip thing but did you see the thing

1340
00:59:19,130 --> 00:59:16,220
with the chips where the no okay so

1341
00:59:21,230 --> 00:59:19,140
this is another little factoid that some

1342
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:21,240
people are claiming and you could see it

1343
00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:24,599
that it could possibly be true the best

1344
00:59:29,630 --> 00:59:27,720
microchips in the world and there's a

1345
00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:29,640
battle for them something like eighty

1346
00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:32,579
percent of them are produced where

1347
00:59:35,049 --> 00:59:34,380
Taiwan

1348
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:35,059
um

1349
00:59:43,309 --> 00:59:41,280
and Biden has just passed into law an

1350
00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:43,319
executive order saying that the Chinese

1351
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:45,900
will no longer have access to the best

1352
00:59:49,789 --> 00:59:48,240
chips this is trade War major trade

1353
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,799
board if anyone hasn't heard of this

1354
00:59:54,770 --> 00:59:51,839
they need to go investigate it

1355
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:54,780
and he said and also he said anyone

1356
01:00:00,770 --> 00:59:57,960
who's working on these Advanced chips

1357
01:00:04,430 --> 01:00:00,780
and are in China has to come home yeah I

1358
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:04,440
heard that this this shuts China down

1359
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:06,599
they are shut down if you don't have

1360
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:09,440
access to these chips you you can't do

1361
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:12,900
anything moving forward uh in terms of

1362
01:00:16,970 --> 01:00:14,579
your economy you're just going to slowly

1363
01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:16,980
I heard they got them from Russia or

1364
01:00:22,370 --> 01:00:20,040
something no the there are 80 percent of

1365
01:00:24,109 --> 01:00:22,380
them are made in Taiwan and we have

1366
01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:24,119
foundries here and part of this thing

1367
01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:26,339
was to make us self-sufficient and build

1368
01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:28,200
all the foundries here but we basically

1369
01:00:33,770 --> 01:00:31,500
control that technology you know IBM

1370
01:00:36,049 --> 01:00:33,780
just last year announced the two

1371
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:36,059
nanometer uh

1372
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:39,980
kind of uh integrated circuit so and

1373
01:00:44,450 --> 01:00:42,240
Moore's law do you know what Moore's Law

1374
01:00:47,089 --> 01:00:44,460
is how computer technology doubles and

1375
01:00:49,010 --> 01:00:47,099
doubles every 18 months and they said

1376
01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:49,020
that's coming to an end well it's not

1377
01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:50,940
coming to an end they continue to have

1378
01:00:55,130 --> 01:00:52,920
breakthroughs there's no end in sight

1379
01:00:57,289 --> 01:00:55,140
but you have to be really smart you got

1380
01:00:59,270 --> 01:00:57,299
to invest a ton of money and then when

1381
01:01:02,210 --> 01:00:59,280
you have it you have all sorts of

1382
01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:02,220
patents and technology that you know in

1383
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:03,720
our friend Bernardo Castro the company

1384
01:01:08,210 --> 01:01:05,460
he used to work for was The Foundry that

1385
01:01:15,289 --> 01:01:08,220
makes all those chips all that is in our

1386
01:01:17,809 --> 01:01:15,299
hands USA USA USA so IBM owns that owns

1387
01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:17,819
that technology Intel owns that

1388
01:01:22,910 --> 01:01:21,420
technology so we're we're now in a

1389
01:01:25,609 --> 01:01:22,920
position to muscle

1390
01:01:28,130 --> 01:01:25,619
China in a way that a lot of people

1391
01:01:30,410 --> 01:01:28,140
didn't see coming how does that play out

1392
01:01:33,650 --> 01:01:30,420
I don't know what does that say to China

1393
01:01:37,130 --> 01:01:33,660
buddying up with uh Russia I don't know

1394
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:37,140
what does that say for the end of the

1395
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:39,780
dominance of the U.S dollar I don't know

1396
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:42,839
and the reason to go on that whole rant

1397
01:01:47,930 --> 01:01:44,760
between two people that like to talk

1398
01:01:49,069 --> 01:01:47,940
about spirituality is just to show how

1399
01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:49,079
many other

1400
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,500
cards there are on the table that need

1401
01:01:57,650 --> 01:01:54,480
to be turned over if you're going to try

1402
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:57,660
and read the deck so it's like it's

1403
01:02:03,710 --> 01:02:01,200
never ending in terms of where this is

1404
01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:03,720
going how it's playing out what the 80

1405
01:02:09,950 --> 01:02:07,260
percent in Boston really means who's in

1406
01:02:12,109 --> 01:02:09,960
charge all the rest of that non-day

1407
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,119
virus really come from America after all

1408
01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:15,359
like George Webb said here so early now

1409
01:02:20,569 --> 01:02:18,119
it seems like it's because the signature

1410
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:20,579
of it is from American life it seems

1411
01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:23,400
like Wuhan got it from America but yeah

1412
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:25,260
you're right but this makes it exciting

1413
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:27,540
doesn't it because it's like the chips

1414
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:30,000
could fall anywhere it's impossible to

1415
01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:34,319
make any safe bets here I will say that

1416
01:02:38,990 --> 01:02:36,839
it's kind of good that America did this

1417
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:39,000
because it kind of proves that they have

1418
01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:42,240
their and the the the the the neck on

1419
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:43,619
the Block because

1420
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,460
this is their new move to answer the

1421
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,200
other move you know the whole Ukraine

1422
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,599
thing uh we shouldn't go too deep into

1423
01:02:54,829 --> 01:02:53,280
it because it will take the whole show

1424
01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:54,839
there's so much to say about it but it

1425
01:02:59,030 --> 01:02:57,480
back forward to the Western Elite the

1426
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:59,040
Western Elite pretends the whole world

1427
01:03:04,069 --> 01:03:01,619
is uh on like it's the whole world

1428
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:04,079
against Russia in reality which people

1429
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:06,000
in the west won't know because we are

1430
01:03:12,130 --> 01:03:09,420
completely brainwashed by our media is

1431
01:03:15,950 --> 01:03:12,140
that it's the whole world against Europe

1432
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:15,960
and USA basically and maybe you can toss

1433
01:03:19,490 --> 01:03:17,880
Australia and Canada in there too but

1434
01:03:22,130 --> 01:03:19,500
the whole world has gone together and

1435
01:03:24,770 --> 01:03:22,140
this has been a slow thing bricks isn't

1436
01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:24,780
a new thing but what's really new now is

1437
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:28,140
that it's not just crazy isolated crises

1438
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:32,400
like the Venezuela guy or Gaddafi and

1439
01:03:37,609 --> 01:03:34,380
all these people who talk about we have

1440
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:37,619
to create an independent currency to

1441
01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:40,200
compete with a dollar this is now

1442
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,559
officially the policy of brics Brazil

1443
01:03:47,510 --> 01:03:45,839
doesn't matter then you didn't you

1444
01:03:49,789 --> 01:03:47,520
didn't you either didn't understand or

1445
01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:49,799
don't agree with what I just said no I

1446
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:53,099
did because the reply is is to use the

1447
01:03:57,710 --> 01:03:55,680
stuff in Taiwan as the bottleneck

1448
01:04:00,170 --> 01:03:57,720
against them no the point is that the

1449
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:00,180
fed the United States Federal Reserve as

1450
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:03,359
bad as it is as corrupt as owned by

1451
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,200
whoever yeah is still in control there

1452
01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:10,079
will be no move away from the U.S

1453
01:04:17,329 --> 01:04:13,980
currency they're with they you do not we

1454
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:17,339
haven't even begun turkey and and Saudi

1455
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,540
Arabia they no it just will what that

1456
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,480
what they're demonstrating to me one of

1457
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:27,599
the takeaways is there's a lot more

1458
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:30,720
power there than you might have thought

1459
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,119
and that was the problem you know when

1460
01:04:37,609 --> 01:04:35,760
you were pitching me the Bitcoin thing a

1461
01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:37,619
year ago and by the way you know your

1462
01:04:42,289 --> 01:04:40,319
Bitcoin now has to basically triple in

1463
01:04:44,270 --> 01:04:42,299
value for you to even get back to Brady

1464
01:04:46,370 --> 01:04:44,280
break even and please do don't tell me

1465
01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:46,380
that it's a good time to buy because you

1466
01:04:50,329 --> 01:04:47,940
said it was a good time to buy it forty

1467
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:50,339
thousand I'm playing like crazy oh good

1468
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:51,599
what are you doing with the stuff you

1469
01:04:58,030 --> 01:04:54,900
bought at 40. the point is the United

1470
01:05:00,589 --> 01:04:58,040
States for good bad whatever

1471
01:05:03,710 --> 01:05:00,599
understands that they have to control

1472
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,720
and dominate economically and they're

1473
01:05:07,549 --> 01:05:05,280
not going to do that they're not going

1474
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:07,559
to let go of that without a fight no and

1475
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:11,220
the fight is so everyone was what I just

1476
01:05:14,510 --> 01:05:12,780
told you about the chips thing what that

1477
01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:14,520
should do for everyone and go look at

1478
01:05:17,809 --> 01:05:15,900
the rivers that don't even have any

1479
01:05:20,030 --> 01:05:17,819
water and the electricity that they

1480
01:05:22,910 --> 01:05:20,040
can't do and there's zero

1481
01:05:25,130 --> 01:05:22,920
tolerance policy on covid which is

1482
01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:25,140
insane and is going to run the country

1483
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:28,020
into the ground and now reassess and say

1484
01:05:32,329 --> 01:05:29,280
oh

1485
01:05:35,030 --> 01:05:32,339
those are the guys that I thought a

1486
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:35,040
couple months ago were gonna knock the

1487
01:05:41,569 --> 01:05:38,760
U.S currency off the top of the hill no

1488
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:41,579
way go look at where their currency is

1489
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:43,619
relative to the United States my wife

1490
01:05:47,870 --> 01:05:45,839
just went to Oktoberfest she stayed in

1491
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:47,880
the finest hotels for next to nothing

1492
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:50,400
because the dollar is stronger than it's

1493
01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:54,960
ever been in my lifetime so a few months

1494
01:06:01,609 --> 01:05:58,980
ago it was oh my the US dollar it's done

1495
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:01,619
the patch it it don't that look that way

1496
01:06:06,109 --> 01:06:03,599
now it could look totally different six

1497
01:06:07,910 --> 01:06:06,119
months from now but just or one month

1498
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,920
from now this is just a part of the

1499
01:06:12,530 --> 01:06:10,079
battle man no you're very impressed by

1500
01:06:14,809 --> 01:06:12,540
that move but there are many moves going

1501
01:06:16,910 --> 01:06:14,819
on yes they will of course they won't go

1502
01:06:18,589 --> 01:06:16,920
down without the fight and the fight

1503
01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:18,599
will get dirty the fight is dirty the

1504
01:06:22,670 --> 01:06:20,220
whole Ukraine thing is a part of this

1505
01:06:23,630 --> 01:06:22,680
they're basically sacrificing an entire

1506
01:06:26,690 --> 01:06:23,640
country

1507
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:26,700
and Europe is on the brink of collapse

1508
01:06:31,730 --> 01:06:30,000
uh Norway is the part of EU but we are

1509
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:31,740
also suffering because a [\h__\h]

1510
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,559
politicians somehow feel loyalty to

1511
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:36,720
Europe so that we have so much power

1512
01:06:42,349 --> 01:06:39,599
here we have oil gas we have waterfalls

1513
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,359
we have wind and they are giving it for

1514
01:06:46,490 --> 01:06:44,400
free almost to Europe and then they're

1515
01:06:48,349 --> 01:06:46,500
buying it back expensively so now I'm

1516
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:48,359
suffering too because of these morons

1517
01:06:54,829 --> 01:06:52,380
but um Europe and Europe is waking up to

1518
01:06:58,490 --> 01:06:54,839
being screwed by America because the

1519
01:07:01,450 --> 01:06:58,500
America First bombs uh the north stream

1520
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:01,460
both the new one and the old one so now

1521
01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:04,500
Germany has nothing and then we they say

1522
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:06,119
Hey you can buy it from us and then we

1523
01:07:11,450 --> 01:07:09,000
buy it four times as much as the price

1524
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:11,460
so they're squeezing so even the loyal

1525
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:14,880
European uh henchmen are starting to get

1526
01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:18,000
cold feet and are having a very hard

1527
01:07:22,490 --> 01:07:20,460
time dealing with the protests because

1528
01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:22,500
this protests all over the world now is

1529
01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:24,599
just not being reported farmers are on

1530
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:26,220
the street because the great reset is

1531
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,039
happening in real time as we speak

1532
01:07:33,289 --> 01:07:31,680
for and I don't have time to go into it

1533
01:07:34,910 --> 01:07:33,299
but they're screwing Farmers Big Time

1534
01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:34,920
huge corporations taking up everything

1535
01:07:39,289 --> 01:07:37,619
so corporatism is the endgame of the

1536
01:07:41,210 --> 01:07:39,299
corporate it's not desperate now that's

1537
01:07:43,069 --> 01:07:41,220
why I think they also have this coveted

1538
01:07:44,569 --> 01:07:43,079
thing in backhand in case they're really

1539
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:44,579
losing then they have to do something

1540
01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:47,520
like that to just because everything is

1541
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,799
coming home now to roost

1542
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:51,839
they can't hide the vaccine damage

1543
01:07:56,089 --> 01:07:53,520
anymore people are waking up left and

1544
01:07:58,490 --> 01:07:56,099
right not just in China I'm impressed by

1545
01:08:01,990 --> 01:07:58,500
the Chinese raising up but I'm just as

1546
01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:02,000
impressed uh with the the racing up in

1547
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,359
Australia in Europe uh we saw in Canada

1548
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:08,640
not long ago the circus right so things

1549
01:08:14,450 --> 01:08:11,460
are happening all over the place and the

1550
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,460
the rulers are in our squeeze because

1551
01:08:19,010 --> 01:08:16,799
they have to fight the geopolitical

1552
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:19,020
battle at the same time they have to

1553
01:08:24,769 --> 01:08:21,420
fight the inner battle against us the

1554
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:24,779
people and Russia China and other

1555
01:08:29,209 --> 01:08:26,940
countries abroad are actually supporting

1556
01:08:31,970 --> 01:08:29,219
the uprise of the people in the west

1557
01:08:35,450 --> 01:08:31,980
because they realize too that you know

1558
01:08:38,329 --> 01:08:35,460
this is a monolith that has to fall and

1559
01:08:41,090 --> 01:08:38,339
any country if you look at history the

1560
01:08:44,269 --> 01:08:41,100
real fall of a power is from within if

1561
01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:44,279
from without can help but there's always

1562
01:08:51,169 --> 01:08:47,580
this uh screw effect you know two front

1563
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,179
wall so I'm I'm not that imp I'm

1564
01:08:56,150 --> 01:08:53,040
impressed yes and I think they would

1565
01:08:58,430 --> 01:08:56,160
even introduce UFOs and whatnot if they

1566
01:08:59,870 --> 01:08:58,440
really are about to fall everything will

1567
01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:59,880
come out anyway you don't you don't

1568
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:02,400
believe in UFOs yeah anyways let's let's

1569
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:03,660
knock it out if you live in a classical

1570
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,259
Space Program no that's it doesn't it's

1571
01:09:10,910 --> 01:09:09,359
a non-starter to say I believe in a

1572
01:09:13,249 --> 01:09:10,920
classified space program that has

1573
01:09:15,289 --> 01:09:13,259
Advanced Technologies from UFOs but I

1574
01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:15,299
don't believe in UFOs and ETS or I

1575
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:16,980
believe in UFOs but I don't believe in

1576
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,920
ETS it's logically inconsistent but

1577
01:09:24,289 --> 01:09:22,080
that's why I say we could do 10 yeah

1578
01:09:26,749 --> 01:09:24,299
shows on all of this stuff should we

1579
01:09:28,610 --> 01:09:26,759
segment to that well you know just to to

1580
01:09:30,050 --> 01:09:28,620
wrap up the other thing because I think

1581
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:30,060
this is really

1582
01:09:35,090 --> 01:09:34,020
to me the uh the Crux of the issue back

1583
01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:35,100
to the mountain

1584
01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:37,620
because we can't forget that that's what

1585
01:09:42,530 --> 01:09:40,440
Drew us together that's what bonds our

1586
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,540
deeper friendship when we have these

1587
01:09:46,490 --> 01:09:45,120
discussions because we do get at odds on

1588
01:09:48,169 --> 01:09:46,500
some of the stuff down at the ground

1589
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:48,179
level but the further we get up the

1590
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:51,239
mountain then the further we just go oh

1591
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:54,719
okay I see you fellow Seeker I see you

1592
01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:57,840
fellow deep spiritual person

1593
01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:00,900
the problem I have with your continued

1594
01:10:06,830 --> 01:10:04,380
analogy of the battle and hooray for the

1595
01:10:08,689 --> 01:10:06,840
people who will rise up and do that is

1596
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:08,699
that back to when I was talking about

1597
01:10:13,550 --> 01:10:10,860
Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan

1598
01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:13,560
you know I mean Sam is he's a comedian

1599
01:10:18,110 --> 01:10:16,440
and so Eddie Bravo is he's going on tour

1600
01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:18,120
with Eddie Bravo Eddie Bravo is one of

1601
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,739
the leading Flat Earth you know and I

1602
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:21,360
get it man they're just playing around

1603
01:10:24,530 --> 01:10:22,560
they're just

1604
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:24,540
see it's it's like you said which is

1605
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,020
that I understand the entertainment like

1606
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:31,199
I've been doing this for so long the

1607
01:10:35,870 --> 01:10:33,480
whole entertainment thing snuck up on me

1608
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:35,880
right I didn't see it as as that people

1609
01:10:40,850 --> 01:10:38,640
are entertained by people find

1610
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:40,860
entertainment from podcasting I never

1611
01:10:45,649 --> 01:10:44,040
looked for I I was foolish naive enough

1612
01:10:48,290 --> 01:10:45,659
to think that when I was listening to

1613
01:10:50,450 --> 01:10:48,300
interviews I was learning something that

1614
01:10:53,149 --> 01:10:50,460
was always my goal yeah I never wanted

1615
01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:53,159
to listen to someone to be entertained I

1616
01:10:56,990 --> 01:10:54,780
like being entertained but I separate

1617
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:57,000
that infotainment the most popular show

1618
01:11:02,270 --> 01:10:59,760
my brother was just visiting me and he's

1619
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,280
been opening his mind lately and I'm

1620
01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:04,800
surprised he's even a fan of me now and

1621
01:11:09,050 --> 01:11:06,360
I asked what was it it was the biggest

1622
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,060
podcast in Norway called constipodin

1623
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:11,280
what on Earth is that well they are

1624
01:11:15,169 --> 01:11:12,719
entertaining conspiracy theories and

1625
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:15,179
then I realized the game is pure

1626
01:11:19,729 --> 01:11:17,040
entertainment they have a new topic

1627
01:11:21,169 --> 01:11:19,739
every week and I always have this ironic

1628
01:11:23,090 --> 01:11:21,179
distance to it but they take it

1629
01:11:25,450 --> 01:11:23,100
seriously enough to you know some of

1630
01:11:29,090 --> 01:11:25,460
these uh conspiracies they buy into

1631
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:29,100
exactly but it's always this this C here

1632
01:11:34,669 --> 01:11:32,159
see this new shiny object we're showing

1633
01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:34,679
you no Amaze over that for a while and

1634
01:11:38,270 --> 01:11:36,540
let me put it back in the box and we

1635
01:11:40,189 --> 01:11:38,280
find a new one next week and go on with

1636
01:11:43,610 --> 01:11:40,199
your life and nothing matters exactly

1637
01:11:46,490 --> 01:11:43,620
and evil doesn't matter exactly right

1638
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,500
right exactly that's how it is I never

1639
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:48,960
saw that coming no never saw that coming

1640
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:51,659
I did because I was utterly entertained

1641
01:11:58,010 --> 01:11:55,440
with Joseph Farrell's talks with this

1642
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,020
old lady but it was pure info but that's

1643
01:12:02,270 --> 01:12:00,000
because I'm entertained by info you

1644
01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:02,280
understand right

1645
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,020
but that's a great that's a great point

1646
01:12:08,030 --> 01:12:06,000
because I am too I'm entertained by

1647
01:12:10,729 --> 01:12:08,040
information yeah but they need they need

1648
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,739
or shock and awe but uh one of the

1649
01:12:16,850 --> 01:12:12,719
things I said about your show all this

1650
01:12:19,850 --> 01:12:16,860
time was that um I find when you get uh

1651
01:12:21,950 --> 01:12:19,860
uh contesting with your guests when you

1652
01:12:24,770 --> 01:12:21,960
started giving them a hard time

1653
01:12:27,229 --> 01:12:24,780
especially the Skeptics that's the shows

1654
01:12:29,149 --> 01:12:27,239
I find most entertaining

1655
01:12:31,970 --> 01:12:29,159
but when you have a so-called friendly

1656
01:12:34,610 --> 01:12:31,980
interview when you're like all all over

1657
01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:34,620
the guy or gal right and oh you're great

1658
01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:38,280
so who then you often you tend to go

1659
01:12:42,649 --> 01:12:40,860
deeper and that's the most enlightening

1660
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:42,659
interviews you do you see the

1661
01:12:47,390 --> 01:12:45,120
distinction yes so apparently I picked

1662
01:12:49,250 --> 01:12:47,400
up on it already back in the day I just

1663
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,260
never thought about it until you made me

1664
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,120
aware now I never thought about it until

1665
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:53,520
you just mentioned it yeah but it's been

1666
01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,300
it's been like uh a deliberate

1667
01:13:01,850 --> 01:12:58,860
cultivation of the entertainment aspect

1668
01:13:04,610 --> 01:13:01,860
of the artist of that's what Netflix can

1669
01:13:06,530 --> 01:13:04,620
afford right yes but they can't go all

1670
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:06,540
the way it's it's back to the boundary

1671
01:13:11,870 --> 01:13:09,000
there are certain amount of spilled over

1672
01:13:14,570 --> 01:13:11,880
into the exoteric field of the normies

1673
01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:14,580
the Moguls right the exoterations The

1674
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:17,100
Sleepwalkers so now you can you can kind

1675
01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:20,219
of deal with it like UFOs now you can do

1676
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:22,860
a UFO thing and be taken seriously so

1677
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,960
it's like the overtone windows is being

1678
01:13:29,209 --> 01:13:27,120
stretched bigger and bigger but at the

1679
01:13:31,729 --> 01:13:29,219
same same time we have this Force we

1680
01:13:34,010 --> 01:13:31,739
have this Force at the same time a

1681
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:34,020
simultaneous force and this force is not

1682
01:13:38,750 --> 01:13:35,699
natural because I believe the first one

1683
01:13:41,450 --> 01:13:38,760
is the trend of opening up the Paradigm

1684
01:13:43,790 --> 01:13:41,460
shutters it's a trend but then you have

1685
01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:43,800
the artificial Force doing cancer

1686
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:47,100
culture identity politics

1687
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:49,920
um censorship now I have to have a show

1688
01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:53,280
in 2022 called the case for Freedom yes

1689
01:13:58,430 --> 01:13:56,219
I never saw that coming when I started

1690
01:14:00,350 --> 01:13:58,440
back in 15. that I have to convince

1691
01:14:02,510 --> 01:14:00,360
people that freedom is a team oh yeah

1692
01:14:04,130 --> 01:14:02,520
that's the result of the other Force

1693
01:14:06,530 --> 01:14:04,140
that's working in parallel it's like

1694
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:06,540
both forces are getting stronger at the

1695
01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:09,480
same time there's the there's the go

1696
01:14:15,229 --> 01:14:12,540
into your Silo go into bubble and don't

1697
01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:15,239
even dare peeking out of it and at the

1698
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,420
same time oh nothing there's no taboos

1699
01:14:22,610 --> 01:14:19,920
anymore we can discuss anything with

1700
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:22,620
anyone yes so it's so weird that both of

1701
01:14:26,930 --> 01:14:25,199
those are there at the same time [\h__\h] if

1702
01:14:30,130 --> 01:14:26,940
anything proves the simulation theory

1703
01:14:36,770 --> 01:14:33,050
Al you are awesome but you know it's the

1704
01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:36,780
knuckle draggers right so this is you

1705
01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:39,540
are not going to this is the slow hard

1706
01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:42,540
truth that I've come to is no the

1707
01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:45,060
knuckle draggers are quite happy being

1708
01:14:50,570 --> 01:14:47,460
knuckle drivers and they're actually

1709
01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:50,580
quite proud of being knuckle draggers

1710
01:14:55,970 --> 01:14:53,699
and the Dilemma that we really face that

1711
01:14:57,709 --> 01:14:55,980
you don't want to talk about and I don't

1712
01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:57,719
want to talk about is

1713
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:01,320
they are as much an obstacle as they are

1714
01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:04,080
a force for the positive change we want

1715
01:15:08,810 --> 01:15:05,640
to see in the world so when you talk

1716
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:08,820
about the people being woken up what are

1717
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:12,000
they waking up to they're waking up to

1718
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,980
their own crazy version of reality and I

1719
01:15:20,810 --> 01:15:18,719
think that there's a there's the kind of

1720
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:20,820
shoehorn effect here where the two

1721
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,960
extreme ends of the of what seemed to be

1722
01:15:29,570 --> 01:15:26,640
the Polar Opposites the further you go

1723
01:15:32,270 --> 01:15:29,580
they start coming together so we start

1724
01:15:35,390 --> 01:15:32,280
coming together with the crazy satanists

1725
01:15:38,090 --> 01:15:35,400
the crazy elitist the crazy luciferians

1726
01:15:40,850 --> 01:15:38,100
who say as I said in last year's show

1727
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:40,860
what the hell do you want to be in the

1728
01:15:46,130 --> 01:15:43,920
soup with those people for those idiots

1729
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:46,140
this is the French Revolution all over

1730
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:48,420
again right this is not the American

1731
01:15:53,570 --> 01:15:50,640
Revolution this is the French Revolution

1732
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:53,580
where this is uh This Is The Killing

1733
01:15:58,430 --> 01:15:56,159
Fields in Cambodia let's take anyone

1734
01:16:00,770 --> 01:15:58,440
who's intellectual who thinks who wears

1735
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:00,780
eyeglasses let's take them out and kill

1736
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:04,560
them right so that that has always been

1737
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:08,159
at risk right and so we we turn around

1738
01:16:12,590 --> 01:16:10,800
and we say who are our real allies in

1739
01:16:13,790 --> 01:16:12,600
this and when we start looking and they

1740
01:16:17,570 --> 01:16:13,800
start looking more and more like

1741
01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:17,580
elitists who say yeah we don't really no

1742
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,140
we don't really want those people around

1743
01:16:23,870 --> 01:16:21,360
those people are not helping them but I

1744
01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:23,880
have a solution for that problem okay

1745
01:16:28,610 --> 01:16:26,760
yeah I have a solution for that I I see

1746
01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:28,620
where you're taking it it's a very great

1747
01:16:32,330 --> 01:16:30,360
Point you're racing I'm glad you're

1748
01:16:35,870 --> 01:16:32,340
taking it off because I've noticed a

1749
01:16:37,790 --> 01:16:35,880
tendency in you that you kind of expect

1750
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,800
all the different people you talk with

1751
01:16:43,430 --> 01:16:39,679
to comb together

1752
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:43,440
on all the different issues illusions

1753
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:44,880
that are crumbling

1754
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:46,980
and I I've always thought you expect too

1755
01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:50,400
much of people uh the the real uh

1756
01:16:54,169 --> 01:16:52,260
Journey or up the mountain is for

1757
01:16:56,030 --> 01:16:54,179
yourself not for the collective the best

1758
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:56,040
we can hope for right on for the

1759
01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:59,280
collective is for them to because look I

1760
01:17:03,709 --> 01:17:01,440
have to go back a step before I get to

1761
01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:03,719
the punchline you know as well as me

1762
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:06,900
we've discussed this before that almost

1763
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,540
everyone in the world today realizes

1764
01:17:13,250 --> 01:17:11,520
that something is rotten in the state of

1765
01:17:16,610 --> 01:17:13,260
Denmark but they realize this within

1766
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:16,620
their own narrow Silo and they don't

1767
01:17:19,310 --> 01:17:18,179
transfer it to everything else they

1768
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:19,320
think everything else is working

1769
01:17:22,490 --> 01:17:20,880
smoothly because they're not an expert

1770
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:22,500
in that field I'll give you a short

1771
01:17:27,050 --> 01:17:24,600
example I have in my family a geologist

1772
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,060
this is a retired now Professor he's

1773
01:17:31,370 --> 01:17:28,800
been fighting the climate change now

1774
01:17:34,729 --> 01:17:31,380
I'll talk about synchronicity this lady

1775
01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:34,739
that you showed to Bernardo Castro I

1776
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:37,440
just discovered her a few days ago this

1777
01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:40,080
climatologist Dr Yuri something so that

1778
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,120
was funny to say Dr Judith Curry yeah

1779
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,400
you brought her up in your show with the

1780
01:17:49,970 --> 01:17:47,280
customer that I loved anyway back to

1781
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:49,980
point so he's realized this for this

1782
01:17:55,729 --> 01:17:52,560
long but he doesn't realize that there's

1783
01:17:58,010 --> 01:17:55,739
the same collapse of checks and balances

1784
01:17:59,810 --> 01:17:58,020
within the field of medicine so he

1785
01:18:02,750 --> 01:17:59,820
believes the vaccine thing his father

1786
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,760
was a doctor he he's oblivious of that

1787
01:18:07,729 --> 01:18:04,800
but he knows it's rotten and corrupted

1788
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:07,739
and he's fighting in the climate change

1789
01:18:12,890 --> 01:18:10,560
area you see this is how everyone is

1790
01:18:15,610 --> 01:18:12,900
functioning and I think most people

1791
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:15,620
don't have the strength to even

1792
01:18:21,890 --> 01:18:19,080
entertain that you know the whole

1793
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:21,900
Paradigm needs to change but anyway back

1794
01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:23,760
to my point I said I had to say no no

1795
01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:25,620
that but that's such a great point I

1796
01:18:29,390 --> 01:18:27,420
just have to that's such an awesome

1797
01:18:31,910 --> 01:18:29,400
awesome point and we've all experienced

1798
01:18:34,669 --> 01:18:31,920
that where someone wakes up to part of

1799
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:34,679
it and then remains kind of totally

1800
01:18:40,250 --> 01:18:37,920
entrenched in the rest and then you poke

1801
01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:40,260
them and try to force them like you did

1802
01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:42,360
in the Bernardo too obviously he wasn't

1803
01:18:46,669 --> 01:18:44,940
ready for for some hard truth in in one

1804
01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:46,679
field because he hasn't paid attention

1805
01:18:52,130 --> 01:18:49,679
to it or he can talk like a master on

1806
01:18:54,890 --> 01:18:52,140
the thing that you usually have them on

1807
01:18:56,510 --> 01:18:54,900
for that you cheer on but then you see

1808
01:18:58,610 --> 01:18:56,520
what happens when you try to push him

1809
01:19:00,530 --> 01:18:58,620
into another water he becomes a human

1810
01:19:02,270 --> 01:19:00,540
being like everyone else now these are

1811
01:19:05,090 --> 01:19:02,280
the knuckle draggers you are criticizing

1812
01:19:07,550 --> 01:19:05,100
so how to handle it Ron Paul had a

1813
01:19:09,770 --> 01:19:07,560
solution long ago in fact even before

1814
01:19:11,030 --> 01:19:09,780
him Leon Trotsky had the exact same

1815
01:19:12,830 --> 01:19:11,040
solution it doesn't matter where you're

1816
01:19:14,689 --> 01:19:12,840
coming from and they all said they're

1817
01:19:17,209 --> 01:19:14,699
not just those two but they're too two

1818
01:19:19,310 --> 01:19:17,219
very different examples who realize one

1819
01:19:23,330 --> 01:19:19,320
single truth that we all have been

1820
01:19:26,209 --> 01:19:23,340
common and that is never about

1821
01:19:28,189 --> 01:19:26,219
um it's never about getting the majority

1822
01:19:30,410 --> 01:19:28,199
it's never about getting everyone

1823
01:19:33,530 --> 01:19:30,420
enlightened everyone to see the illusion

1824
01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:33,540
everyone to agree upon the solutions to

1825
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:36,199
the illusion it's always been about

1826
01:19:41,870 --> 01:19:39,179
coalitions that's how the human

1827
01:19:44,030 --> 01:19:41,880
Collective mind moves forward if enough

1828
01:19:45,890 --> 01:19:44,040
people are against the vaccine I don't

1829
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:45,900
care you can be a Nazi a Christian

1830
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:48,900
fundamentalist you can be a virus denier

1831
01:19:55,130 --> 01:19:52,400
come into my Camp come into my time

1832
01:19:57,770 --> 01:19:55,140
there's a room here we fight this fight

1833
01:20:01,689 --> 01:19:57,780
and we win bum okay what's the next

1834
01:20:04,430 --> 01:20:01,699
fight is the next fight whether UFOs

1835
01:20:07,130 --> 01:20:04,440
whether we have free energy anti-gravity

1836
01:20:10,430 --> 01:20:07,140
come into my tent whoever it is because

1837
01:20:12,169 --> 01:20:10,440
that way this is real democracy Alex is

1838
01:20:14,630 --> 01:20:12,179
better than any democracy that's been

1839
01:20:16,610 --> 01:20:14,640
designed by any system because usually

1840
01:20:19,550 --> 01:20:16,620
those democracies become the

1841
01:20:22,430 --> 01:20:19,560
dictatorship of the majority this

1842
01:20:24,649 --> 01:20:22,440
mechanism that everybody comes together

1843
01:20:26,810 --> 01:20:24,659
and pushes in the same direction for

1844
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:26,820
this specific issue brings us forward

1845
01:20:31,610 --> 01:20:29,520
there will be more runs in our tent on

1846
01:20:33,470 --> 01:20:31,620
the this specific issue and they will

1847
01:20:35,570 --> 01:20:33,480
lose all the battles where we may be

1848
01:20:37,850 --> 01:20:35,580
against them because then we're fighting

1849
01:20:40,189 --> 01:20:37,860
that battle but for this specific issue

1850
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:40,199
let's come together and I sincerely

1851
01:20:46,750 --> 01:20:43,920
believe that the majority will always go

1852
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:46,760
in the right direction in this situation

1853
01:20:52,010 --> 01:20:50,159
given that we are not too manipulated

1854
01:20:54,410 --> 01:20:52,020
given that there's a minimum of free

1855
01:20:55,850 --> 01:20:54,420
speech and open information this is why

1856
01:20:58,669 --> 01:20:55,860
they need to control the information

1857
01:21:00,410 --> 01:20:58,679
this is explains two things of course it

1858
01:21:02,270 --> 01:21:00,420
goes without saying that they control

1859
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:02,280
media and why we don't even have to

1860
01:21:06,649 --> 01:21:03,840
discuss that everybody knows everybody

1861
01:21:10,669 --> 01:21:06,659
agrees but that's just one coin of the

1862
01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:10,679
control gain the other one is to keep us

1863
01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:13,620
infighting we have to blame our neighbor

1864
01:21:18,290 --> 01:21:16,260
we can't ever you know mention any of

1865
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:18,300
the entities in the controlling

1866
01:21:23,510 --> 01:21:20,640
mechanism that's where the smackdown so

1867
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:23,520
how to do that cancel culture amp up the

1868
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:25,679
cultural War so people care more about

1869
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,560
abortion or gender or what have you all

1870
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:30,960
sort of insane things so that we don't

1871
01:21:36,110 --> 01:21:32,820
come together on the important things

1872
01:21:38,570 --> 01:21:36,120
that has to do with economy or or the

1873
01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:38,580
control you know the the passport the

1874
01:21:44,209 --> 01:21:40,739
the social credit system all that stuff

1875
01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:44,219
no devoid and Conquer is the game so I

1876
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:46,500
can't get on people because they look at

1877
01:21:50,270 --> 01:21:48,239
my curriculum and they're very

1878
01:21:53,209 --> 01:21:50,280
comfortable if they only saw the other

1879
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,219
guests I had on for their area but then

1880
01:21:56,209 --> 01:21:54,960
they see guests for other area they

1881
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:56,219
don't know the guests they don't even

1882
01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:57,900
understand the area they think it's some

1883
01:22:02,630 --> 01:22:00,360
kind of lunatic show going on here and I

1884
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:02,640
can't get that guest on because I'm not

1885
01:22:06,530 --> 01:22:04,800
only focusing on baseball I had the

1886
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:06,540
audacity to focus on all the sports

1887
01:22:11,689 --> 01:22:09,540
right and so I have to try to dance

1888
01:22:13,550 --> 01:22:11,699
around tap dance around to get them on

1889
01:22:15,950 --> 01:22:13,560
what why am I mentioning this it's

1890
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:15,960
directly connected to this Grand reality

1891
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:20,400
of our modern Zeitgeist which is divide

1892
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:21,840
and conquer you can't talk to your

1893
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,100
neighbor you have to blame your neighbor

1894
01:22:27,470 --> 01:22:25,679
just don't blame fauci or anyone in the

1895
01:22:29,810 --> 01:22:27,480
top politicize everything everything

1896
01:22:31,790 --> 01:22:29,820
becomes about teams everything oh you're

1897
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:31,800
in the wrong team bump cancel this is

1898
01:22:36,050 --> 01:22:34,080
the opposite of Science and this is how

1899
01:22:38,030 --> 01:22:36,060
science has been hijacked So when you

1900
01:22:40,510 --> 01:22:38,040
say we don't believe in science anymore

1901
01:22:44,090 --> 01:22:40,520
I disagree we don't believe in

1902
01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:44,100
institutionalized science or scientists

1903
01:22:48,350 --> 01:22:46,500
there you know the politicization and

1904
01:22:50,330 --> 01:22:48,360
commercialization of science but I do

1905
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,340
believe in the process and that process

1906
01:22:54,649 --> 01:22:52,800
says you can share that with anyone any

1907
01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:54,659
for any reason like in the old days

1908
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:57,239
remember they said any uh advertisements

1909
01:23:02,149 --> 01:23:00,239
is good advertisement but completely out

1910
01:23:04,430 --> 01:23:02,159
of the window today

1911
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:04,440
okay I'll stop my rant now are you

1912
01:23:08,689 --> 01:23:05,880
following me

1913
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:08,699
I'm following you I'm just

1914
01:23:13,729 --> 01:23:11,340
I I resonate more with the conversation

1915
01:23:15,229 --> 01:23:13,739
we had last year because we covered a

1916
01:23:19,390 --> 01:23:15,239
lot of the same Quran and at some point

1917
01:23:22,430 --> 01:23:19,400
you had done a spectacular interview on

1918
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,440
some audacious title like the hidden

1919
01:23:27,370 --> 01:23:24,480
secrets of everything or something like

1920
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,380
that it's about yeah is about an

1921
01:23:32,930 --> 01:23:30,239
esoteric uh occulted understanding of

1922
01:23:35,930 --> 01:23:32,940
death you know and you really were quite

1923
01:23:38,930 --> 01:23:35,940
impassioned in talking about how much

1924
01:23:41,930 --> 01:23:38,940
knowledge there really is that has been

1925
01:23:43,850 --> 01:23:41,940
carefully preserved through systems of

1926
01:23:45,470 --> 01:23:43,860
through wisdom Traditions about death

1927
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:45,480
and then we talked about that in

1928
01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:48,719
contrast to Modern after death science

1929
01:23:52,430 --> 01:23:50,940
like after death communication or near

1930
01:23:55,729 --> 01:23:52,440
death experience or shared death

1931
01:23:58,370 --> 01:23:55,739
experience but the the the key central

1932
01:24:02,810 --> 01:23:58,380
point that I think we both came to is

1933
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:02,820
that the vastness of this experience

1934
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,040
which we don't even understand this

1935
01:24:11,270 --> 01:24:07,920
experience this we understand that this

1936
01:24:13,610 --> 01:24:11,280
this experience of being human like you

1937
01:24:16,430 --> 01:24:13,620
and I talking right now we understand

1938
01:24:20,689 --> 01:24:16,440
that that's a tiny tiny little drop in

1939
01:24:22,130 --> 01:24:20,699
this ocean of my soul of my of my soul I

1940
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,140
was going to say Consciousness but that

1941
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:24,960
that's two grand just in my soul's

1942
01:24:31,970 --> 01:24:29,520
Journey this is tiny tiny tiny so that's

1943
01:24:35,630 --> 01:24:31,980
the problem I guess I have with the big

1944
01:24:37,729 --> 01:24:35,640
tent uh Coalition kind of thing no yeah

1945
01:24:42,050 --> 01:24:37,739
but everything is relative hold on yeah

1946
01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:42,060
hunger only for truth hunger only for

1947
01:24:49,070 --> 01:24:45,420
justice only for truth only for justice

1948
01:24:52,010 --> 01:24:49,080
no compromise if you believe if you're a

1949
01:24:55,310 --> 01:24:52,020
Christian no you need to go back and

1950
01:24:58,130 --> 01:24:55,320
understand the fallacy of the historical

1951
01:25:01,970 --> 01:24:58,140
Jesus narrative if you're a Muslim even

1952
01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:01,980
worse if you're Judy if you believe in

1953
01:25:05,689 --> 01:25:03,780
Judaism then you've missed the whole

1954
01:25:08,689 --> 01:25:05,699
point of the first two points of things

1955
01:25:11,870 --> 01:25:08,699
no we do not need to tolerate other

1956
01:25:14,990 --> 01:25:11,880
people's silliness we should not suffer

1957
01:25:17,930 --> 01:25:15,000
fools gladly no we should not respect

1958
01:25:20,570 --> 01:25:17,940
other people's belief hunger only for

1959
01:25:23,570 --> 01:25:20,580
truth but hunger only for justice and

1960
01:25:27,050 --> 01:25:23,580
love because in the end we're just tiny

1961
01:25:28,810 --> 01:25:27,060
little drops in our Soul's Journey got

1962
01:25:31,610 --> 01:25:28,820
you yeah

1963
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:31,620
okay I'm glad you kind of reached at us

1964
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:33,360
back to that sub point of yours because

1965
01:25:39,050 --> 01:25:36,000
yeah it's a valid point But the irony

1966
01:25:42,950 --> 01:25:39,060
here you you come off as an activist on

1967
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:42,960
this really a Truth uh Warrior and you

1968
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:46,320
always been but here's where our kind of

1969
01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:48,960
cultural thing is different because I

1970
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:52,140
come from esoterica that's like we've

1971
01:25:58,129 --> 01:25:54,000
already thrown in the towel and said we

1972
01:26:01,250 --> 01:25:58,139
give up we can't make everyone aware we

1973
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:01,260
just we just the default is everybody's

1974
01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:03,060
sleeping and now I'm gonna try to to

1975
01:26:07,729 --> 01:26:04,920
wake up as much as I can and if I meet

1976
01:26:09,950 --> 01:26:07,739
others on my journey who also seek that

1977
01:26:12,530 --> 01:26:09,960
or have some ability to do that or has

1978
01:26:14,990 --> 01:26:12,540
shown to do that to some extent I'm

1979
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,000
gonna hitch my wagon to that person as

1980
01:26:20,990 --> 01:26:17,760
long as that's useful for both of us and

1981
01:26:24,649 --> 01:26:21,000
so this brings the age-old philosophical

1982
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,659
problem of what is the function and I I

1983
01:26:28,669 --> 01:26:26,639
discussed this briefly also with his

1984
01:26:31,010 --> 01:26:28,679
work what is the function of our reality

1985
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:31,020
and to me it seems like the function of

1986
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,120
reality is changing right now like

1987
01:26:37,729 --> 01:26:35,280
they're changing the goal of the

1988
01:26:39,890 --> 01:26:37,739
simulation game we're in but if the

1989
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:39,900
function is that we're some kind of

1990
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:42,480
school right then your problem is really

1991
01:26:46,970 --> 01:26:44,760
that in your parents instead of putting

1992
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:46,980
you in an elite school where people are

1993
01:26:50,510 --> 01:26:48,960
functioning at your level you're being

1994
01:26:52,430 --> 01:26:50,520
put in a school with

1995
01:26:55,070 --> 01:26:52,440
a Norwegian School in the Norwegian

1996
01:26:56,689 --> 01:26:55,080
school we put morons and Geniuses in the

1997
01:27:00,050 --> 01:26:56,699
same that's a whole philosophy of our

1998
01:27:01,970 --> 01:27:00,060
country that it benefits both of them to

1999
01:27:04,370 --> 01:27:01,980
be in the same class but then you're

2000
01:27:06,530 --> 01:27:04,380
going to be annoyed by all these morons

2001
01:27:08,510 --> 01:27:06,540
who still hasn't even figured out how to

2002
01:27:10,370 --> 01:27:08,520
come that happened with me my

2003
01:27:12,649 --> 01:27:10,380
grandfather taught me when I was four

2004
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,659
years old to read and write and count

2005
01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:15,120
and so when I came in the first class in

2006
01:27:21,229 --> 01:27:18,239
school I was super bored I couldn't pay

2007
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:21,239
attention and we don't have like oh the

2008
01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:22,860
morons in one class and their leads in

2009
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:25,560
another so the teacher gave me books for

2010
01:27:29,689 --> 01:27:27,840
the sixth degree level so I was sitting

2011
01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:29,699
in a behind reading those books being

2012
01:27:35,810 --> 01:27:33,300
very bored and that developed a sabotage

2013
01:27:38,090 --> 01:27:35,820
for me namely that I never did homework

2014
01:27:40,610 --> 01:27:38,100
I never why should I do homework I

2015
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:40,620
already know all this stuff so that

2016
01:27:44,750 --> 01:27:42,480
became a bad habit so everyone caught up

2017
01:27:47,570 --> 01:27:44,760
with me by the time you came to the six

2018
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:47,580
the sixth degree class and that's what's

2019
01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:49,920
happening with you you're complaining of

2020
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:52,380
of yeah but don't you see if you can

2021
01:27:56,990 --> 01:27:54,300
realize that you have to eat this but

2022
01:27:59,270 --> 01:27:57,000
Alex my default to you is that that's

2023
01:28:02,570 --> 01:27:59,280
impossible yes you look if you can get

2024
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:02,580
even 10 to that level but my point with

2025
01:28:10,129 --> 01:28:06,239
the Coalition uh uh method is that we

2026
01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:10,139
don't need uh 50 Enlightenment on any

2027
01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:13,800
matter we can get you know a critical

2028
01:28:18,050 --> 01:28:16,500
mass maybe as low as 10 and then a

2029
01:28:20,090 --> 01:28:18,060
revolution comes about a French

2030
01:28:23,149 --> 01:28:20,100
Revolution comes about just by ten

2031
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,159
percent and because we now have forced

2032
01:28:26,450 --> 01:28:25,440
with our will or Collective will a new

2033
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:26,460
normal

2034
01:28:35,870 --> 01:28:32,880
morons easier to wake up to higher

2035
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:35,880
realities higher other important areas

2036
01:28:39,950 --> 01:28:37,440
where they have to shift a paradigm

2037
01:28:42,770 --> 01:28:39,960
because now Society is a little better

2038
01:28:44,570 --> 01:28:42,780
on this small issue that we changed so

2039
01:28:46,430 --> 01:28:44,580
now we're stimulating people instead of

2040
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,440
pushing them down because that's really

2041
01:28:51,470 --> 01:28:48,320
what the fight is about it's about

2042
01:28:54,890 --> 01:28:51,480
creating Collective tools to keep us

2043
01:28:58,430 --> 01:28:54,900
down or Derm us down or make a

2044
01:29:01,850 --> 01:28:58,440
Devolution versus creating Collective

2045
01:29:05,629 --> 01:29:01,860
tools to race or stimulate us Inspire us

2046
01:29:07,250 --> 01:29:05,639
to to better us that's at one level a

2047
01:29:09,410 --> 01:29:07,260
battle that has gone on for a long time

2048
01:29:11,090 --> 01:29:09,420
too and I'm sure many of those who

2049
01:29:13,250 --> 01:29:11,100
actually introduces

2050
01:29:15,770 --> 01:29:13,260
solutions that aren't solutions they are

2051
01:29:18,110 --> 01:29:15,780
at best detours and distractions but

2052
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:18,120
more likely they are sabotaging

2053
01:29:23,570 --> 01:29:21,360
mechanisms many of those have this same

2054
01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:23,580
glimmer in their eye as you when you

2055
01:29:28,010 --> 01:29:25,620
talk about this you're a true Seeker you

2056
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,020
want the betterment of many of them too

2057
01:29:32,810 --> 01:29:30,420
but they're just incredibly misguided

2058
01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:32,820
and so in many levels there is also a

2059
01:29:37,729 --> 01:29:35,699
battle of ideas it's always a battle of

2060
01:29:41,570 --> 01:29:37,739
ideas at the same time as it's a battle

2061
01:29:43,070 --> 01:29:41,580
of specific issues so I agree with you

2062
01:29:44,870 --> 01:29:43,080
for the Battle of ideas but it's

2063
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:44,880
something about you have to choose your

2064
01:29:48,770 --> 01:29:46,739
battles too if you want to win the war

2065
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:48,780
and you can't expect the entire

2066
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:51,659
Battalion to join you on every single

2067
01:29:56,330 --> 01:29:54,060
battle you you want to go into better

2068
01:29:58,669 --> 01:29:56,340
you find willing soldiers where you need

2069
01:30:00,530 --> 01:29:58,679
them and that way you will win the war

2070
01:30:01,970 --> 01:30:00,540
even if it's not the same brothers and

2071
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:01,980
arms in every battle you understand what

2072
01:30:05,149 --> 01:30:03,120
I mean

2073
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:05,159
I understand let me bring it down to a

2074
01:30:11,149 --> 01:30:08,159
real personal example small one that I

2075
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:11,159
think everyone can relate to we have a

2076
01:30:18,410 --> 01:30:12,480
dog I want to send you a picture of the

2077
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:18,420
dog it's huge this huge 150 pound dog

2078
01:30:22,030 --> 01:30:19,679
that somebody couldn't take care of

2079
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:22,040
anymore and my wife who we fostered like

2080
01:30:29,450 --> 01:30:25,920
50.60 at this point oh wow so so Freddy

2081
01:30:32,510 --> 01:30:29,460
and now is always the case the dog comes

2082
01:30:35,689 --> 01:30:32,520
in as my wife's dog and wine sucking the

2083
01:30:38,149 --> 01:30:35,699
dog that I have to walk and take care of

2084
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:38,159
course I'm walking back from the beach

2085
01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,280
with the dog and I'm I'm broke up to my

2086
01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:42,960
neighbor who is a big dog person and

2087
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:44,159
she's super nice

2088
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:47,040
and where's the picture I can't see it I

2089
01:30:51,709 --> 01:30:48,719
want to see it while you talk about it I

2090
01:30:55,490 --> 01:30:51,719
mean let me pull it up or him or her him

2091
01:30:59,890 --> 01:30:55,500
is it a [\h__\h] him him okay I just love

2092
01:31:05,689 --> 01:31:02,990
political correct Norway you know yeah

2093
01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:05,699
yeah yeah yeah let's get it uh let's get

2094
01:31:11,270 --> 01:31:08,159
the oh look it's there there we are at

2095
01:31:12,770 --> 01:31:11,280
Thanksgiving there's a journey uh here's

2096
01:31:16,669 --> 01:31:12,780
Freddy but you can't

2097
01:31:18,770 --> 01:31:16,679
I like it oh wow there's there's Freddy

2098
01:31:21,649 --> 01:31:18,780
can you can't make out the even the race

2099
01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:21,659
he's huge he's huge here let's give you

2100
01:31:26,090 --> 01:31:24,600
a better picture of him uh oh here he is

2101
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:26,100
with the whole fam oh he's a Sonic

2102
01:31:29,629 --> 01:31:27,179
burnout

2103
01:31:30,830 --> 01:31:29,639
he looks like it he's actually a um a

2104
01:31:33,590 --> 01:31:30,840
Mastiff

2105
01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:33,600
oh okay but you can see how huge he is

2106
01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:36,960
right yeah kind of cute yeah

2107
01:31:41,689 --> 01:31:40,320
so walking back I walked past I see my

2108
01:31:44,030 --> 01:31:41,699
neighbor and I'll walk up just chat with

2109
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:44,040
my neighbor I don't know how but the

2110
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,000
term the name fauci came up and she goes

2111
01:31:52,850 --> 01:31:51,120
oh oh I I I love that guy right so it's

2112
01:31:55,070 --> 01:31:52,860
probably nine months ago you know right

2113
01:31:58,129 --> 01:31:55,080
in the heart of it so California now

2114
01:31:59,990 --> 01:31:58,139
right when you hear that you can you can

2115
01:32:02,270 --> 01:32:00,000
react in a number of different ways but

2116
01:32:04,669 --> 01:32:02,280
I have a hard time not reacting at a

2117
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:04,679
real visceral level but I've managed to

2118
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:07,679
maintain that to a certain extent and I

2119
01:32:15,169 --> 01:32:11,040
go but Carol I mean if you looked at all

2120
01:32:17,390 --> 01:32:15,179
into any of the stuff on him I I no I

2121
01:32:18,590 --> 01:32:17,400
like him I just I just think he's a good

2122
01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:18,600
guy

2123
01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:21,840
what about gain of function I said do

2124
01:32:27,470 --> 01:32:24,239
you know what gain of function is no I

2125
01:32:30,290 --> 01:32:27,480
just no I I just I like him give her a

2126
01:32:33,410 --> 01:32:30,300
robot Kennedy's Book for Christmas okay

2127
01:32:35,689 --> 01:32:33,420
be a good neighbor yeah it's called the

2128
01:32:39,050 --> 01:32:35,699
real Anthony fauci shout out

2129
01:32:41,870 --> 01:32:39,060
shout out here's my question

2130
01:32:43,129 --> 01:32:41,880
like we all get that but what do we do

2131
01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:43,139
with it

2132
01:32:47,709 --> 01:32:44,940
because

2133
01:32:51,530 --> 01:32:47,719
what do we do with that at that other

2134
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:51,540
spiritual level because she is a good

2135
01:32:57,649 --> 01:32:53,760
person she has a good heart I've known

2136
01:33:00,649 --> 01:32:57,659
her for decades and I I have deep

2137
01:33:04,129 --> 01:33:00,659
feelings of affection for we live in the

2138
01:33:07,910 --> 01:33:04,139
same Turf on the same dirt you know and

2139
01:33:11,770 --> 01:33:07,920
so how are we supposed to hold those

2140
01:33:16,430 --> 01:33:11,780
people in our lives I'm torn because

2141
01:33:19,990 --> 01:33:16,440
she's clearly completely moronic about

2142
01:33:23,390 --> 01:33:20,000
uh fauji she just had wrong information

2143
01:33:26,750 --> 01:33:23,400
people make decisions no no she has no

2144
01:33:29,570 --> 01:33:26,760
no she has no interest in that's my

2145
01:33:32,629 --> 01:33:29,580
point that's the knuckle dragger that's

2146
01:33:35,990 --> 01:33:32,639
what I thought see I thought Richard Cox

2147
01:33:39,709 --> 01:33:36,000
if I really spent the time and explained

2148
01:33:41,750 --> 01:33:39,719
to him how ridiculous no virus is how

2149
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:41,760
there's hundreds and thousands of

2150
01:33:48,610 --> 01:33:45,360
journals and journal papers on virology

2151
01:33:52,370 --> 01:33:48,620
that have been peer reviewed and

2152
01:33:54,169 --> 01:33:52,380
can only exist inside of a world like

2153
01:33:56,810 --> 01:33:54,179
you said a bracketed reality where

2154
01:33:59,270 --> 01:33:56,820
there's some basic truth fundamentally

2155
01:34:01,250 --> 01:33:59,280
to viruses and there may be a lot of

2156
01:34:02,770 --> 01:34:01,260
non-truths but I mean basically it's not

2157
01:34:06,110 --> 01:34:02,780
a no virus world

2158
01:34:09,950 --> 01:34:06,120
that is just that is equivalent to right

2159
01:34:12,649 --> 01:34:09,960
so how do we how do we live

2160
01:34:14,750 --> 01:34:12,659
in that world how do we go forward and

2161
01:34:16,430 --> 01:34:14,760
this is like a this is like a deep

2162
01:34:18,169 --> 01:34:16,440
question for me it's a question I really

2163
01:34:20,090 --> 01:34:18,179
think about how do I want to be in the

2164
01:34:22,189 --> 01:34:20,100
world what do I want to do and that's

2165
01:34:24,890 --> 01:34:22,199
why I said I paused skeptico

2166
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:24,900
I'm not sure how to go forward but I'm

2167
01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:27,360
sure that the way I have been going at

2168
01:34:32,810 --> 01:34:30,239
it is not going to serve me because

2169
01:34:34,669 --> 01:34:32,820
skeptico's always been about my journey

2170
01:34:37,189 --> 01:34:34,679
shared you know it's really just about

2171
01:34:39,410 --> 01:34:37,199
my journey and the trick is I put it out

2172
01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:39,420
there and share it so that I can talk to

2173
01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:41,520
a wider number of people but it's really

2174
01:34:46,189 --> 01:34:43,199
just my journey and it's still my

2175
01:34:49,129 --> 01:34:46,199
journey I'm not sure my journey is

2176
01:34:52,490 --> 01:34:49,139
served by doing it the way that I've

2177
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:52,500
done it because of Richard Cox because

2178
01:34:57,709 --> 01:34:55,920
of Carol next door because of the

2179
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:57,719
knuckle draggers in the world who really

2180
01:35:03,950 --> 01:35:00,480
don't really just want to be kind of

2181
01:35:07,610 --> 01:35:03,960
left alone they really don't want the

2182
01:35:09,709 --> 01:35:07,620
truth no no the truth hasn't been you

2183
01:35:11,450 --> 01:35:09,719
know you should really uh the way

2184
01:35:13,370 --> 01:35:11,460
forward for you is to make a time

2185
01:35:15,530 --> 01:35:13,380
machine and go back to ancient Egypt

2186
01:35:18,890 --> 01:35:15,540
because there that's the Lost culture

2187
01:35:20,930 --> 01:35:18,900
that had we have enjoyment our current

2188
01:35:22,850 --> 01:35:20,940
side guest enjoyment is on top of

2189
01:35:24,010 --> 01:35:22,860
everyone if everybody wanted be honest

2190
01:35:27,649 --> 01:35:24,020
with themselves

2191
01:35:30,649 --> 01:35:27,659
maximum enjoyment that wasn't the

2192
01:35:33,770 --> 01:35:30,659
collective Paradigm of the ancients for

2193
01:35:38,169 --> 01:35:33,780
them it was wisdom that was the highest

2194
01:35:40,729 --> 01:35:38,179
virtue Insight the ability to understand

2195
01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:40,739
as much as possible that's why when we

2196
01:35:45,110 --> 01:35:42,239
look back we don't understand what

2197
01:35:47,330 --> 01:35:45,120
anything they were on about the best we

2198
01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:47,340
can do is to interpret it literally and

2199
01:35:50,510 --> 01:35:48,840
thinking they were knuckle draggers

2200
01:35:51,410 --> 01:35:50,520
because we are knuckle ragger so we

2201
01:35:55,970 --> 01:35:51,420
project

2202
01:35:57,830 --> 01:35:55,980
but no it's a serious issue and I'm glad

2203
01:36:00,129 --> 01:35:57,840
you used the neighbor problem I don't

2204
01:36:03,649 --> 01:36:00,139
have a clear answer for you for once

2205
01:36:05,330 --> 01:36:03,659
because now you're entering into the

2206
01:36:07,370 --> 01:36:05,340
domain of the individual you have to

2207
01:36:10,250 --> 01:36:07,380
make an individual assessment like in

2208
01:36:13,010 --> 01:36:10,260
your shoes what would I do it depends on

2209
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:13,020
what I knew about her but I would have I

2210
01:36:19,129 --> 01:36:16,080
would need an inkling of interest from

2211
01:36:21,890 --> 01:36:19,139
her to even bother pushing anything at

2212
01:36:23,930 --> 01:36:21,900
all I may just do a like obscure

2213
01:36:25,129 --> 01:36:23,940
question well are you so sure about him

2214
01:36:28,370 --> 01:36:25,139
well

2215
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:28,380
what if there's a shadow side something

2216
01:36:35,090 --> 01:36:31,440
you know just to put in a seed but you

2217
01:36:38,510 --> 01:36:35,100
cannot convert someone who is not

2218
01:36:40,430 --> 01:36:38,520
interested who is not seeking to shift

2219
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,440
their Paradigm that's our problem

2220
01:36:45,110 --> 01:36:42,960
usually the best way to do it because

2221
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:45,120
I've been researching this for years and

2222
01:36:50,689 --> 01:36:47,280
years through my work through my other

2223
01:36:52,490 --> 01:36:50,699
stuff and that's that you start changing

2224
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:52,500
the information they get

2225
01:36:57,110 --> 01:36:54,719
and then you see what kind of person

2226
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:57,120
they are based on that new information

2227
01:37:02,570 --> 01:37:00,000
they now have access to some will start

2228
01:37:05,030 --> 01:37:02,580
questioning or or seek or elsewhere

2229
01:37:06,890 --> 01:37:05,040
others will maybe just wholesale reject

2230
01:37:09,709 --> 01:37:06,900
it because it's too much because they

2231
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:09,719
realize it will become for them a

2232
01:37:14,750 --> 01:37:12,239
painful Paradigm Shift yes others will

2233
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,760
try to maybe Bend backwards to make it

2234
01:37:19,010 --> 01:37:16,320
fit but people have very different

2235
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:19,020
reactions and you can only take let's

2236
01:37:23,930 --> 01:37:21,600
reduce this to sales this is how I train

2237
01:37:26,090 --> 01:37:23,940
myself people back in the day I said

2238
01:37:27,890 --> 01:37:26,100
first of all you can't sell anything you

2239
01:37:30,169 --> 01:37:27,900
don't you're not convinced of you have

2240
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:30,179
to believe in the product that's going

2241
01:37:34,550 --> 01:37:31,920
to make you a real seller because if

2242
01:37:37,550 --> 01:37:34,560
nothing else the intuition of the buyer

2243
01:37:39,410 --> 01:37:37,560
will bust you uh you can have all the

2244
01:37:41,410 --> 01:37:39,420
right information All the Right facts

2245
01:37:44,450 --> 01:37:41,420
you're conveying it without conviction

2246
01:37:47,689 --> 01:37:44,460
uh there's something uh dissonating in

2247
01:37:49,310 --> 01:37:47,699
your message so you have to make you

2248
01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:49,320
have to believe in it yourselves that's

2249
01:37:55,490 --> 01:37:52,620
number one then number two they need to

2250
01:37:59,149 --> 01:37:55,500
either be displeased with the current

2251
01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:59,159
type of item there this is representing

2252
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:02,040
or at least be open for that there's

2253
01:38:05,689 --> 01:38:03,840
possible to surpass it if they're very

2254
01:38:08,110 --> 01:38:05,699
in love with the item they already have

2255
01:38:11,390 --> 01:38:08,120
you can't sell to them even if they

2256
01:38:12,649 --> 01:38:11,400
needed uh even if you're selling ice and

2257
01:38:15,649 --> 01:38:12,659
you're in Sahara

2258
01:38:18,110 --> 01:38:15,659
so it's it's all about the other person

2259
01:38:19,550 --> 01:38:18,120
and collectively forget about it this is

2260
01:38:22,129 --> 01:38:19,560
why I'm going back to the Coalition

2261
01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:22,139
because you can always do the fight for

2262
01:38:25,370 --> 01:38:23,699
the right thing there and then with

2263
01:38:27,709 --> 01:38:25,380
those who are walking up to that thing

2264
01:38:31,070 --> 01:38:27,719
there and then but you can't expect

2265
01:38:33,169 --> 01:38:31,080
everyone to wake up to everything or

2266
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:33,179
even wanting to do it because we live in

2267
01:38:38,810 --> 01:38:35,699
a reality where

2268
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:38,820
uh most of us are still trying to learn

2269
01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:42,480
the letters and read whereas if you just

2270
01:38:46,669 --> 01:38:44,760
look if enough of us are ahead of that

2271
01:38:48,050 --> 01:38:46,679
game so we can do something different

2272
01:38:50,570 --> 01:38:48,060
which is what we're doing I'm just

2273
01:38:52,490 --> 01:38:50,580
appreciating anytime I meet a person I

2274
01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:52,500
don't think there's one other person in

2275
01:38:56,570 --> 01:38:54,360
the world who would agree with me about

2276
01:38:59,209 --> 01:38:56,580
everything if we had enough time and

2277
01:39:01,490 --> 01:38:59,219
resources to really you know take that

2278
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:01,500
battle down I know some people do the

2279
01:39:05,930 --> 01:39:04,080
mistake of discovering someone that

2280
01:39:07,729 --> 01:39:05,940
understands them very well and they

2281
01:39:10,910 --> 01:39:07,739
understand them and then they oh we're

2282
01:39:12,890 --> 01:39:10,920
soulmate everything but the thing is

2283
01:39:14,450 --> 01:39:12,900
you may have a good chemistry for

2284
01:39:16,430 --> 01:39:14,460
communication and you may have some

2285
01:39:19,010 --> 01:39:16,440
common values but there's always going

2286
01:39:21,169 --> 01:39:19,020
to be discrepancy and you may not even

2287
01:39:22,850 --> 01:39:21,179
have a better life with this person just

2288
01:39:24,950 --> 01:39:22,860
because you agree about certain things

2289
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:24,960
in fact it should be more on the

2290
01:39:30,410 --> 01:39:27,600
personal level you agree uh and the

2291
01:39:34,129 --> 01:39:30,420
existential level to you know really

2292
01:39:36,770 --> 01:39:34,139
feel as an existential Harmony so this

2293
01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:36,780
is the best I can do uh I've given up

2294
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,020
long ago thinking that I'm just amazed

2295
01:39:44,930 --> 01:39:42,480
that we can do as much as we do today it

2296
01:39:47,450 --> 01:39:44,940
just compares to 10 years ago 50 years

2297
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:47,460
ago 100 years ago there's never been

2298
01:39:52,250 --> 01:39:49,920
more awakened people than now Alex URC

2299
01:39:54,050 --> 01:39:52,260
is saying the glass is half empty I'm

2300
01:39:56,209 --> 01:39:54,060
saying it's actually half full because

2301
01:39:58,850 --> 01:39:56,219
I'm coming from a much more nihilistic

2302
01:40:01,370 --> 01:39:58,860
and pessimistic outlook on the

2303
01:40:03,709 --> 01:40:01,380
collective than you are doing you think

2304
01:40:05,330 --> 01:40:03,719
this battle for truth is actually at

2305
01:40:07,189 --> 01:40:05,340
some level it's welcome and it can

2306
01:40:09,530 --> 01:40:07,199
actually change anything

2307
01:40:11,629 --> 01:40:09,540
again people have to want change they

2308
01:40:14,689 --> 01:40:11,639
have to be ready for change this is why

2309
01:40:17,390 --> 01:40:14,699
a certain maturity among the souls are

2310
01:40:19,250 --> 01:40:17,400
needed for us to take anything up to the

2311
01:40:22,370 --> 01:40:19,260
next level and and how do we even know

2312
01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:22,380
look we may be artificially stifled you

2313
01:40:27,470 --> 01:40:25,980
sent me the uh link to Greer and he's

2314
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:27,480
arguing that we've been kept down

2315
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:30,480
artificially maybe if someone agree

2316
01:40:35,870 --> 01:40:33,360
about Putin in charge of everything and

2317
01:40:37,910 --> 01:40:35,880
uh could just dictate how stuff should

2318
01:40:40,129 --> 01:40:37,920
be so and let's say he did it right so

2319
01:40:43,250 --> 01:40:40,139
that we were stimulated on every single

2320
01:40:45,709 --> 01:40:43,260
area I think we could double or maybe

2321
01:40:48,530 --> 01:40:45,719
triple the level of society function

2322
01:40:50,570 --> 01:40:48,540
Zone but there would still be rapists

2323
01:40:52,729 --> 01:40:50,580
that would still be you know knuckle

2324
01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:52,739
riggers there would still be people who

2325
01:40:58,970 --> 01:40:55,199
who's not on board with you know going

2326
01:41:00,830 --> 01:40:58,980
forward that's just how how our class

2327
01:41:02,990 --> 01:41:00,840
that's the level we're functioning or

2328
01:41:04,610 --> 01:41:03,000
not that's all I can say so okay that's

2329
01:41:06,649 --> 01:41:04,620
good when it comes to where you're going

2330
01:41:08,810 --> 01:41:06,659
to take skeptical you should consider

2331
01:41:11,090 --> 01:41:08,820
then do you want to make

2332
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:11,100
a Maximum Impact

2333
01:41:18,110 --> 01:41:15,360
than fewer people do you want to

2334
01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:18,120
go for quantity do you want to awake

2335
01:41:22,850 --> 01:41:21,000
maximum people number of people then you

2336
01:41:25,490 --> 01:41:22,860
have to amp down

2337
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:25,500
you know the quality I I don't think you

2338
01:41:32,270 --> 01:41:30,000
can do both the maximum Awakening and a

2339
01:41:35,030 --> 01:41:32,280
majority at the same time

2340
01:41:36,530 --> 01:41:35,040
sorry so I think you got some

2341
01:41:38,090 --> 01:41:36,540
interesting points because we're dancing

2342
01:41:39,950 --> 01:41:38,100
around some of the the fundamental

2343
01:41:43,129 --> 01:41:39,960
issues that I always bring us back to

2344
01:41:45,770 --> 01:41:43,139
because I love your occultist

2345
01:41:49,669 --> 01:41:45,780
perspective which you gave us earlier in

2346
01:41:52,669 --> 01:41:49,679
the show which needs to be fully I think

2347
01:41:55,550 --> 01:41:52,679
spelled out and appreciated and I don't

2348
01:41:58,070 --> 01:41:55,560
want to misrepresent it so at any time

2349
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:58,080
Jump in there and tell me but what I

2350
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:00,119
heard you say earlier in the show is

2351
01:42:05,649 --> 01:42:03,360
that look people who understand that

2352
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:05,659
there is this

2353
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:09,840
esoteric occulted hidden knowledge have

2354
01:42:15,169 --> 01:42:12,239
learned that there's a certain practical

2355
01:42:18,410 --> 01:42:15,179
system for perpetuating that knowledge

2356
01:42:21,229 --> 01:42:18,420
going forward and one aspect of it is

2357
01:42:23,270 --> 01:42:21,239
that you you don't give it out to

2358
01:42:25,850 --> 01:42:23,280
everybody and when you do give it out

2359
01:42:28,910 --> 01:42:25,860
you're kind of careful and you kind of

2360
01:42:31,250 --> 01:42:28,920
you know it's not for everyone no not

2361
01:42:34,910 --> 01:42:31,260
everyone's ready for it

2362
01:42:37,070 --> 01:42:34,920
go with the simple story first

2363
01:42:41,570 --> 01:42:37,080
I like how you connected that to sales

2364
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:41,580
because I think that is the sales uh the

2365
01:42:48,229 --> 01:42:45,600
sales value system which is it's the

2366
01:42:49,970 --> 01:42:48,239
example of she's I have a lot of

2367
01:42:52,490 --> 01:42:49,980
experience in sales and sales training

2368
01:42:54,410 --> 01:42:52,500
as well and you know Jordan Belfort

2369
01:42:57,169 --> 01:42:54,420
people might remember from The Wolf of

2370
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:57,179
Wall Street the famous movie and he's a

2371
01:43:01,070 --> 01:42:58,800
sales trainer and he's written a number

2372
01:43:02,930 --> 01:43:01,080
of books and as you were going through

2373
01:43:04,669 --> 01:43:02,940
your experience with training sales

2374
01:43:07,609 --> 01:43:04,679
people I was thinking of Jordan Belfort

2375
01:43:09,649 --> 01:43:07,619
and that's one of his things is like hey

2376
01:43:12,530 --> 01:43:09,659
if you know he what I love about him is

2377
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:12,540
it's very black and white in terms of

2378
01:43:15,410 --> 01:43:14,159
the decision tree you go through and he

2379
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:15,420
goes okay if you get to this point and

2380
01:43:20,990 --> 01:43:17,520
they say no move on you're not going to

2381
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:21,000
sell that person now this person but the

2382
01:43:24,609 --> 01:43:22,980
point of Jordan Belfort is no one can

2383
01:43:28,729 --> 01:43:24,619
read that and say that's not black magic

2384
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:28,739
it is it is it's mind control it's say

2385
01:43:34,850 --> 01:43:32,880
this repeat this coach it this way and

2386
01:43:37,370 --> 01:43:34,860
you can manipulate this person into

2387
01:43:39,169 --> 01:43:37,380
doing what you want and if they fall

2388
01:43:41,090 --> 01:43:39,179
into this category then you're going to

2389
01:43:43,070 --> 01:43:41,100
be less statistically likely to

2390
01:43:46,729 --> 01:43:43,080
manipulate them in the way that you want

2391
01:43:49,070 --> 01:43:46,739
so move on to your next call so the

2392
01:43:52,490 --> 01:43:49,080
intersection this relates back this is

2393
01:43:55,490 --> 01:43:52,500
why a occultism gets a bad name right

2394
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,500
because you are learning in the process

2395
01:44:01,209 --> 01:43:57,840
of learning how to perpetuate truth

2396
01:44:05,930 --> 01:44:01,219
you're also learning how to

2397
01:44:06,590 --> 01:44:05,940
subvert how to uh dominate how to you

2398
01:44:10,250 --> 01:44:06,600
know

2399
01:44:12,229 --> 01:44:10,260
yeah do all the the bad stuff that you

2400
01:44:14,270 --> 01:44:12,239
sent me in the latest thing of the

2401
01:44:15,649 --> 01:44:14,280
latest pedophile Elite kind of thing

2402
01:44:19,850 --> 01:44:15,659
that comes home all the time it's like

2403
01:44:21,229 --> 01:44:19,860
why the hell not I have the power how do

2404
01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:21,239
I know I have the power if I don't

2405
01:44:27,470 --> 01:44:25,260
exercise the power in some way so this I

2406
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,480
think as we return to again and again in

2407
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:30,000
our discussion here is the fundamental

2408
01:44:37,550 --> 01:44:33,600
core issue is how do we walk this line

2409
01:44:40,669 --> 01:44:37,560
how do we walk this path of being a

2410
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:40,679
truth Warrior being a light Warrior may

2411
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:43,440
may that okay truth that is in your

2412
01:44:48,530 --> 01:44:45,840
heart The Virtuous truth that's in your

2413
01:44:50,570 --> 01:44:48,540
heart how can that always come forward

2414
01:44:52,430 --> 01:44:50,580
from that perspective right do you

2415
01:44:54,890 --> 01:44:52,440
understand what I'm saying yeah I have

2416
01:44:56,990 --> 01:44:54,900
one idea I just want to say about the

2417
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:57,000
sales these are the yeah these are the

2418
01:45:01,010 --> 01:44:58,800
Black magicians in sales we know them

2419
01:45:02,570 --> 01:45:01,020
and they would say you don't have to

2420
01:45:04,669 --> 01:45:02,580
believe in the product just use the

2421
01:45:06,649 --> 01:45:04,679
right manipulation tools now there's

2422
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:06,659
also a white magic principle in sales

2423
01:45:11,390 --> 01:45:08,639
and that's the believe in the product

2424
01:45:15,290 --> 01:45:11,400
thing but at the end of the line that's

2425
01:45:17,570 --> 01:45:15,300
not how you really spread uh something

2426
01:45:20,450 --> 01:45:17,580
it's the trend versus just the fashion

2427
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:20,460
fashion is imposed upon us if you own

2428
01:45:24,830 --> 01:45:22,260
all the control mechanisms of

2429
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:24,840
information so you have an Europe

2430
01:45:29,450 --> 01:45:27,060
international corporation sure you can

2431
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,460
day in and day out bombard us with

2432
01:45:35,390 --> 01:45:31,920
advertisement and yes it will work to a

2433
01:45:39,790 --> 01:45:35,400
certain extent but then they look with

2434
01:45:42,649 --> 01:45:39,800
horror and Envy on real movements of

2435
01:45:44,990 --> 01:45:42,659
Trends where it comes from the bottom

2436
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:45,000
for example

2437
01:45:49,250 --> 01:45:47,520
uh yeah something that's been like how

2438
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:49,260
Beatles became popular to take something

2439
01:45:53,450 --> 01:45:51,600
trivial or you know Polo Quail we didn't

2440
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:53,460
have much marketing for his book The

2441
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,500
Alchemist but he just went oh Harry

2442
01:45:58,609 --> 01:45:57,600
Potter right nobody could predict it it

2443
01:46:00,830 --> 01:45:58,619
just happened

2444
01:46:03,169 --> 01:46:00,840
this is the best way this is the white

2445
01:46:05,090 --> 01:46:03,179
way it's the natural way and that's why

2446
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:05,100
I said to my uh salespeople you have to

2447
01:46:08,570 --> 01:46:06,960
believe in it now if you look at how

2448
01:46:11,570 --> 01:46:08,580
ideas spread

2449
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:11,580
we have a very erratic I would say even

2450
01:46:16,729 --> 01:46:14,880
our Our Sick aspect in our culture and

2451
01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:16,739
that comes from the monetarianistic

2452
01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:20,159
religions or especially Christendom and

2453
01:46:26,330 --> 01:46:22,980
Islam because they have been using

2454
01:46:27,530 --> 01:46:26,340
preaching converting people and you

2455
01:46:29,870 --> 01:46:27,540
would think that's effective because

2456
01:46:31,790 --> 01:46:29,880
they are the largest religions and then

2457
01:46:34,189 --> 01:46:31,800
you look at the Masons and say no no no

2458
01:46:37,010 --> 01:46:34,199
no you can't join us you think you can

2459
01:46:39,770 --> 01:46:37,020
join us well maybe if you hope through

2460
01:46:41,629 --> 01:46:39,780
this obstacle and this and that but this

2461
01:46:43,370 --> 01:46:41,639
[\h__\h] because if you know anything

2462
01:46:45,950 --> 01:46:43,380
about Masons you know you can join them

2463
01:46:47,870 --> 01:46:45,960
if you really know how it works but the

2464
01:46:49,129 --> 01:46:47,880
sales pitch is different and it's much

2465
01:46:51,709 --> 01:46:49,139
better

2466
01:46:53,270 --> 01:46:51,719
and it's there oh it goes back to the

2467
01:46:55,550 --> 01:46:53,280
whole thing I don't want to belong to a

2468
01:46:58,910 --> 01:46:55,560
club that wants me now let's read one to

2469
01:47:00,770 --> 01:46:58,920
the religions I said that the conversion

2470
01:47:03,229 --> 01:47:00,780
religions the preaching religions that

2471
01:47:05,689 --> 01:47:03,239
didn't become big by preaching that's a

2472
01:47:08,510 --> 01:47:05,699
misnomer how they really became big was

2473
01:47:10,970 --> 01:47:08,520
with force it was by the sword in both

2474
01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:10,980
cases and as soon as they were big then

2475
01:47:16,370 --> 01:47:13,980
they could continue their campaign with

2476
01:47:18,350 --> 01:47:16,380
this preaching thing and this exclusive

2477
01:47:21,410 --> 01:47:18,360
end because humans most humans are

2478
01:47:22,970 --> 01:47:21,420
habitual so before Christendom came they

2479
01:47:24,590 --> 01:47:22,980
have a habitual of the old religions

2480
01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:24,600
they went and alive and even if then

2481
01:47:29,930 --> 01:47:26,880
every religions were enlightened and

2482
01:47:32,689 --> 01:47:29,940
it's the same today we are habitual so

2483
01:47:35,629 --> 01:47:32,699
if they can force a new paradigm on us

2484
01:47:39,649 --> 01:47:35,639
we will to a certain extent move along

2485
01:47:41,570 --> 01:47:39,659
with it but that's why I think the

2486
01:47:43,729 --> 01:47:41,580
battle now is between those who find

2487
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:43,739
artificial means to try to influence

2488
01:47:48,410 --> 01:47:45,600
everyone on the earth at the same time

2489
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:48,420
it goes back to what I said two season

2490
01:47:53,390 --> 01:47:51,600
reviews ago when I said that wow it's a

2491
01:47:54,890 --> 01:47:53,400
game computer game for the first time

2492
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:54,900
the whole world of the world is well

2493
01:47:59,629 --> 01:47:57,360
upped up in it well with that comes also

2494
01:48:02,149 --> 01:47:59,639
the information War right so for the

2495
01:48:04,910 --> 01:48:02,159
first time they may not influence

2496
01:48:08,450 --> 01:48:04,920
Chinese people uh the Western oligarchs

2497
01:48:10,490 --> 01:48:08,460
may not in terms of how they would think

2498
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:10,500
politically but they can influence us by

2499
01:48:15,169 --> 01:48:11,840
for example

2500
01:48:17,450 --> 01:48:15,179
and you know the mask reality maybe a

2501
01:48:20,030 --> 01:48:17,460
global thing it's cracking now of course

2502
01:48:22,490 --> 01:48:20,040
the vaccine reality so there's certain

2503
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,500
things that can make us believe and it's

2504
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:24,719
still black magic because essentially in

2505
01:48:30,649 --> 01:48:27,360
Black Magic is scarcity and fear

2506
01:48:33,649 --> 01:48:30,659
scarcity and fear not inspiration and

2507
01:48:37,310 --> 01:48:33,659
truth and that's really the path you are

2508
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,320
on in so how can you continue that path

2509
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,360
where you're using where you're trying

2510
01:48:43,609 --> 01:48:41,280
to appeal to the better nature of people

2511
01:48:46,370 --> 01:48:43,619
where they want to know the truth hope

2512
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:46,380
that they're not too scared not too

2513
01:48:50,270 --> 01:48:47,760
scarcity

2514
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:50,280
uh you know withdrawn into their own

2515
01:48:55,430 --> 01:48:53,340
little bubble how can you entice them to

2516
01:48:57,649 --> 01:48:55,440
come up I'm doing the same and for me

2517
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:57,659
I'm coining it as Paradigm shifts

2518
01:49:02,330 --> 01:49:00,000
because people want to believe that they

2519
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:02,340
want to expand their worldview people

2520
01:49:07,970 --> 01:49:05,040
want to believe maybe it's a what we

2521
01:49:09,709 --> 01:49:07,980
call a Lifeline but theoretically they

2522
01:49:11,810 --> 01:49:09,719
think they're interested in truth so I

2523
01:49:13,370 --> 01:49:11,820
carefully introduced one piece here one

2524
01:49:16,209 --> 01:49:13,380
piece there one piece here one piece

2525
01:49:18,649 --> 01:49:16,219
there and if you listen to enough shows

2526
01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:18,659
eventually many of those dots are going

2527
01:49:23,629 --> 01:49:20,940
to come together without them intending

2528
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:23,639
it and that helps them to want to get to

2529
01:49:30,530 --> 01:49:26,159
the really bigger picture but I'm I'm

2530
01:49:32,090 --> 01:49:30,540
very conscientious of the fact that uh

2531
01:49:35,629 --> 01:49:32,100
someone comes in for the Oak Island

2532
01:49:38,570 --> 01:49:35,639
mystery and I don't care about the show

2533
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,580
we did about scientism for example but

2534
01:49:42,169 --> 01:49:40,560
as they fall in love with the show and

2535
01:49:43,729 --> 01:49:42,179
this is why your show also has an

2536
01:49:45,649 --> 01:49:43,739
important Mission as they fall in love

2537
01:49:48,050 --> 01:49:45,659
with it they start exploring all the

2538
01:49:49,310 --> 01:49:48,060
areas where I'm poking and the same is

2539
01:49:52,189 --> 01:49:49,320
happening in your show but in a

2540
01:49:56,209 --> 01:49:52,199
different way you're more on a monolith

2541
01:49:59,930 --> 01:49:56,219
Journey but you go by area by area in

2542
01:50:01,729 --> 01:49:59,940
seasons and like I I flirt with it you

2543
01:50:04,010 --> 01:50:01,739
know within the same season 10 different

2544
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,020
things you're also going through those

2545
01:50:08,930 --> 01:50:05,520
10 different things but you're doing it

2546
01:50:11,330 --> 01:50:08,940
in a longer ride so to speak so those

2547
01:50:13,729 --> 01:50:11,340
you have still with you are still

2548
01:50:15,530 --> 01:50:13,739
sharing that new level and you would

2549
01:50:17,689 --> 01:50:15,540
have to assume they would get it

2550
01:50:20,209 --> 01:50:17,699
otherwise they wouldn't keep riding with

2551
01:50:22,850 --> 01:50:20,219
you and then you pick up new people and

2552
01:50:24,890 --> 01:50:22,860
they may like I did go back and see okay

2553
01:50:27,290 --> 01:50:24,900
where were you before that's interesting

2554
01:50:29,570 --> 01:50:27,300
that's a very interesting experience to

2555
01:50:31,729 --> 01:50:29,580
see okay so this came before this and

2556
01:50:33,649 --> 01:50:31,739
I'm with you there too otherwise I won't

2557
01:50:36,169 --> 01:50:33,659
meet you at where you are now so I don't

2558
01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:36,179
think the way you're doing it is

2559
01:50:39,649 --> 01:50:37,800
I don't understand why you have to

2560
01:50:40,910 --> 01:50:39,659
revisit that entire way because it's

2561
01:50:46,430 --> 01:50:40,920
working

2562
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:46,440
let me say one more thing okay esoterica

2563
01:50:54,530 --> 01:50:49,920
yeah one important reason we try to keep

2564
01:50:55,850 --> 01:50:54,540
it among our own is precisely that it

2565
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:55,860
shouldn't fall in the hands of people

2566
01:51:00,050 --> 01:50:57,840
like the Deep state right because they

2567
01:51:02,330 --> 01:51:00,060
you can be sure that they will do

2568
01:51:04,609 --> 01:51:02,340
anything they can with this to try to

2569
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:04,619
make it something negative how can I use

2570
01:51:10,129 --> 01:51:08,159
this thing to oppress to dumb down to

2571
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:10,139
keep them back that's why you have a

2572
01:51:16,189 --> 01:51:12,060
responsibility when you know something

2573
01:51:18,890 --> 01:51:16,199
that is good that works share with with

2574
01:51:20,930 --> 01:51:18,900
it with this money you know let's say

2575
01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:20,940
it's like Jesus said better to learn

2576
01:51:26,510 --> 01:51:24,540
people to fish than to give them fish I

2577
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:26,520
totally agree but when people are not

2578
01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:28,800
interested in learning how to fish when

2579
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:31,080
they are just too incompetent let's say

2580
01:51:36,109 --> 01:51:34,080
they don't have legs and arms then you

2581
01:51:39,470 --> 01:51:36,119
have to keep giving them fish

2582
01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:39,480
so you need to know how exclusively this

2583
01:51:44,510 --> 01:51:41,580
fishing technique you're exploring you

2584
01:51:46,970 --> 01:51:44,520
want to be let anyone be able to get a

2585
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:46,980
whale well then it's going to be 10

2586
01:51:52,010 --> 01:51:49,679
people in your audience man but you want

2587
01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:52,020
to get let them get any type of creature

2588
01:51:56,450 --> 01:51:54,480
in the ocean well then you can expand it

2589
01:51:57,770 --> 01:51:56,460
to 100 million people you see what I

2590
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,780
mean you have to find that balance

2591
01:52:01,850 --> 01:51:59,760
between quantity and quality that's what

2592
01:52:04,790 --> 01:52:01,860
esoterica is all about

2593
01:52:07,370 --> 01:52:04,800
okay with that I'm going to play one

2594
01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:07,380
more clip okay and then I want to hear

2595
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:08,580
what you have to say and then we can

2596
01:52:15,229 --> 01:52:11,840
move towards prediction adjourning okay

2597
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:15,239
predictions yes predictions and then a

2598
01:52:20,390 --> 01:52:18,719
journey so here is a a clip from

2599
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:20,400
the show that we've mentioned a couple

2600
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:23,520
times on my ah interview with that show

2601
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:26,159
Bernardo Castro yeah let me go ahead and

2602
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:27,360
play it and then we'll see what you

2603
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:29,040
think

2604
01:52:35,149 --> 01:52:32,880
on this episode of skeptico

2605
01:52:37,129 --> 01:52:35,159
a show about rules

2606
01:52:39,649 --> 01:52:37,139
when to break them still hanging out at

2607
01:52:41,870 --> 01:52:39,659
the after party and uh with me uh Tupac

2608
01:52:44,229 --> 01:52:41,880
Shakur all right believe in death row

2609
01:52:47,450 --> 01:52:44,239
ease I believe in that

2610
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:47,460
one but if you believe in God believe in

2611
01:52:53,570 --> 01:52:51,119
death row East and when to follow them

2612
01:52:55,629 --> 01:52:53,580
I accept the rules you know laboratory

2613
01:52:58,490 --> 01:52:55,639
evidence fine that's all we will look at

2614
01:53:01,189 --> 01:52:58,500
reasoning fine that's all I will base my

2615
01:53:04,669 --> 01:53:01,199
argument on I will never appeal to my

2616
01:53:07,330 --> 01:53:04,679
own personal subjective insight and you

2617
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:07,340
go a long way it's enough to win after

2618
01:53:13,970 --> 01:53:11,040
this transition has been accepted then

2619
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:13,980
we can review the rules of the game that

2620
01:53:19,729 --> 01:53:17,040
first clip was from 1996 Tupac Shakur

2621
01:53:21,770 --> 01:53:19,739
who I included because he was kind of is

2622
01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:21,780
for breaking rules and famously said

2623
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:23,460
play the game but don't let the game

2624
01:53:29,450 --> 01:53:26,400
play you and the second was from our

2625
01:53:31,729 --> 01:53:29,460
excellent excellent guest Dr Bernardo

2626
01:53:34,129 --> 01:53:31,739
Castro who has been on the show before I

2627
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,139
highly respect is truly one of the

2628
01:53:39,310 --> 01:53:36,719
leaders in Paradigm change from

2629
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:39,320
biological robot meaningless Universe to

2630
01:53:44,410 --> 01:53:42,420
wherever we go next now the rules game

2631
01:53:48,590 --> 01:53:44,420
thing really has a lot of different

2632
01:53:50,810 --> 01:53:48,600
meanings as this interview goes on I

2633
01:53:52,490 --> 01:53:50,820
would just interject that yes it does

2634
01:53:55,550 --> 01:53:52,500
because because as you pointed out I

2635
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:55,560
grilled Bernardo pretty hard in terms of

2636
01:54:03,290 --> 01:53:59,360
his uh going down the path of the

2637
01:54:05,209 --> 01:54:03,300
Netherlands global climate change like I

2638
01:54:07,970 --> 01:54:05,219
always say I had a guy who Nova Scotia

2639
01:54:10,609 --> 01:54:07,980
global climate change everyone sees

2640
01:54:12,890 --> 01:54:10,619
climate change on a global basis based

2641
01:54:15,530 --> 01:54:12,900
on what the world looks like out of

2642
01:54:17,570 --> 01:54:15,540
there out of their window but the point

2643
01:54:21,530 --> 01:54:17,580
I was really making I can kind of get

2644
01:54:25,250 --> 01:54:21,540
off the topic is Tupac way back in the

2645
01:54:26,689 --> 01:54:25,260
day play the game don't let the game

2646
01:54:30,410 --> 01:54:26,699
play you

2647
01:54:32,570 --> 01:54:30,420
and that's what it's about for me too no

2648
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:32,580
I'm gonna play the game I'm not going to

2649
01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:34,980
let the game play me I'm about my

2650
01:54:38,330 --> 01:54:37,440
journey I don't care if I have an

2651
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:38,340
audience

2652
01:54:44,990 --> 01:54:41,520
truth be told I never did care

2653
01:54:49,310 --> 01:54:45,000
um so it doesn't matter and if it all

2654
01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:49,320
goes away then it just keeps going on

2655
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:51,659
nothing changes and that's a good reason

2656
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,260
why I did stop because I didn't say I

2657
01:55:00,770 --> 01:54:57,360
completely quit but I've stopped because

2658
01:55:03,770 --> 01:55:00,780
until you stop you can't really talk

2659
01:55:06,410 --> 01:55:03,780
about stopping you have to stop in order

2660
01:55:08,629 --> 01:55:06,420
to say this is what it's like to back

2661
01:55:13,370 --> 01:55:08,639
off this is what it's like to stop

2662
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:13,380
playing the game is anyone listening if

2663
01:55:18,649 --> 01:55:16,320
anyone wants me to go forward I'll

2664
01:55:22,310 --> 01:55:18,659
figure out whether that makes sense but

2665
01:55:26,290 --> 01:55:22,320
if no one's calling my name then I can

2666
01:55:30,169 --> 01:55:26,300
just stay on the bench that's fine too

2667
01:55:32,830 --> 01:55:30,179
none are you turning our commemoration

2668
01:55:35,530 --> 01:55:32,840
into an epitaph

2669
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:35,540
I didn't know it was this serious look

2670
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:38,400
you had a lot of people coming on your

2671
01:55:43,930 --> 01:55:42,480
show to to upload your project so uh it

2672
01:55:47,930 --> 01:55:43,940
shouldn't be the band pendant on

2673
01:55:50,750 --> 01:55:47,940
response but if it is uh that should be

2674
01:55:53,450 --> 01:55:50,760
your cue but no I think you will the

2675
01:55:56,450 --> 01:55:53,460
deeper you go the smaller the audience

2676
01:56:00,129 --> 01:55:56,460
you will cater to is but on the other

2677
01:56:02,109 --> 01:56:00,139
side the more they will follow your

2678
01:56:04,910 --> 01:56:02,119
absolute

2679
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:04,920
boundary or should I say Horizon you

2680
01:56:10,910 --> 01:56:08,760
understand that's how it works like you

2681
01:56:14,570 --> 01:56:10,920
know I'm involved

2682
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:14,580
um in like a spiritual group so to speak

2683
01:56:20,270 --> 01:56:16,800
call it what you want a mystery School a

2684
01:56:23,689 --> 01:56:20,280
gathering of equal uh kindred spirits

2685
01:56:26,209 --> 01:56:23,699
and we are deliberately few we can never

2686
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:26,219
become a mass movement it's against the

2687
01:56:31,330 --> 01:56:28,560
entire thing and it's much better you

2688
01:56:34,970 --> 01:56:31,340
know the spiritual um

2689
01:56:37,550 --> 01:56:34,980
what is it called thrust gets fatigued

2690
01:56:39,770 --> 01:56:37,560
in huge Gatherings like a football

2691
01:56:41,629 --> 01:56:39,780
stadium is very limited what you can

2692
01:56:44,209 --> 01:56:41,639
achieve there I mean if you can get

2693
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,219
everyone to focus on a basic emotion yes

2694
01:56:49,330 --> 01:56:46,560
you can manipulate that's what religions

2695
01:56:52,930 --> 01:56:49,340
have done and that's what uh political

2696
01:56:55,970 --> 01:56:52,940
states do but if you want to raise

2697
01:56:58,609 --> 01:56:55,980
awareness and the level on a

2698
01:57:00,890 --> 01:56:58,619
simultaneously on as many as much as

2699
01:57:05,149 --> 01:57:00,900
possible then it has to be a small

2700
01:57:09,070 --> 01:57:05,159
Clique that's how Jesus had 12 disciples

2701
01:57:12,410 --> 01:57:09,080
riding in a 12 000 disciples so

2702
01:57:14,750 --> 01:57:12,420
some things never change on this level

2703
01:57:16,790 --> 01:57:14,760
of existence nothing is new Under the

2704
01:57:18,890 --> 01:57:16,800
Sun this is one of them this isn't a new

2705
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:18,900
problem what we're debating now they

2706
01:57:25,189 --> 01:57:21,599
debated it in Rome in Greece probably in

2707
01:57:27,709 --> 01:57:25,199
Egypt you name it India so it's just the

2708
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:27,719
means are different we're talking now

2709
01:57:33,470 --> 01:57:30,960
transmission of information via The

2710
01:57:35,689 --> 01:57:33,480
Ether right so I don't have an answer

2711
01:57:37,729 --> 01:57:35,699
for you I acknowledge your good

2712
01:57:38,750 --> 01:57:37,739
questions but I recognize that these

2713
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:38,760
questions

2714
01:57:43,010 --> 01:57:41,040
and that may you may find some comfort

2715
01:57:45,169 --> 01:57:43,020
in that that these are age-old questions

2716
01:57:47,330 --> 01:57:45,179
and there are solutions of course where

2717
01:57:48,890 --> 01:57:47,340
there are people have been before there

2718
01:57:51,290 --> 01:57:48,900
are always Solutions but you have to

2719
01:57:54,589 --> 01:57:51,300
find the one that's right for you and

2720
01:57:55,810 --> 01:57:54,599
that really depends enjoy this time or

2721
01:57:58,970 --> 01:57:55,820
out

2722
01:58:01,370 --> 01:57:58,980
assess very importantly what you really

2723
01:58:02,870 --> 01:58:01,380
want to achieve I think that's the most

2724
01:58:05,209 --> 01:58:02,880
important thing and then the rest will

2725
01:58:08,050 --> 01:58:05,219
will follow if you see what I mean

2726
01:58:11,330 --> 01:58:08,060
I I do I really

2727
01:58:13,010 --> 01:58:11,340
appreciate your whole well all the

2728
01:58:14,390 --> 01:58:13,020
everything you're saying I especially

2729
01:58:15,410 --> 01:58:14,400
appreciate the first part of what you're

2730
01:58:18,169 --> 01:58:15,420
saying because I think there's some

2731
01:58:20,990 --> 01:58:18,179
really deep insights there in terms of

2732
01:58:23,330 --> 01:58:21,000
how the energy works how the energy

2733
01:58:25,010 --> 01:58:23,340
works in a small number of people versus

2734
01:58:28,010 --> 01:58:25,020
how it works in a larger number of

2735
01:58:31,010 --> 01:58:28,020
people and whether we should seek this

2736
01:58:33,950 --> 01:58:31,020
kind of crowd push push push is always

2737
01:58:37,669 --> 01:58:33,960
the draw or whether we should reduce and

2738
01:58:41,209 --> 01:58:37,679
the the one thing I I marry that to was

2739
01:58:43,729 --> 01:58:41,219
what I said is you you can't

2740
01:58:45,649 --> 01:58:43,739
you you have to pause you have to I

2741
01:58:48,290 --> 01:58:45,659
think I have to pause I have to step

2742
01:58:51,290 --> 01:58:48,300
back in order to go forward I can't

2743
01:58:54,890 --> 01:58:51,300
continue to do things the way that I've

2744
01:58:56,750 --> 01:58:54,900
done them and then say Oh this is now uh

2745
01:58:59,570 --> 01:58:56,760
this is now different and I think it's

2746
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,580
it's just a natural part of the growth

2747
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:01,679
process the other thing I think is a

2748
01:59:06,830 --> 01:59:03,599
natural part of the growth process that

2749
01:59:09,709 --> 01:59:06,840
I want to tap into going forward is I

2750
01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:09,719
want to be more connected to

2751
01:59:19,910 --> 01:59:14,280
truly the spiritual path of truth of

2752
01:59:23,810 --> 01:59:19,920
justice of not being you know the the I

2753
01:59:25,250 --> 01:59:23,820
look I'm all about knowing as much as I

2754
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:25,260
can

2755
01:59:31,430 --> 01:59:28,080
um but this isn't this knowing isn't a

2756
01:59:35,209 --> 01:59:31,440
competition so the knuckle draggers are

2757
01:59:37,729 --> 01:59:35,219
not my enemy they're just kind of in my

2758
01:59:40,070 --> 01:59:37,739
way I have to kind of move move my

2759
01:59:42,290 --> 01:59:40,080
shopping cart around them but I don't

2760
01:59:45,410 --> 01:59:42,300
have to get hung up on that and I think

2761
01:59:47,629 --> 01:59:45,420
I do sometimes or or I think in the same

2762
01:59:50,030 --> 01:59:47,639
way I always kind of thought the

2763
01:59:53,270 --> 01:59:50,040
disinformation misinformation co-intel

2764
01:59:55,250 --> 01:59:53,280
agents need to be exposed so people can

2765
01:59:58,370 --> 01:59:55,260
see what they're doing

2766
02:00:01,850 --> 01:59:58,380
maybe not so much maybe what I need to

2767
02:00:04,430 --> 02:00:01,860
do maybe what we need to do because when

2768
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:04,440
I say we you know last time we spoke I

2769
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:06,960
talked about I felt a need to bring

2770
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,360
truth to the truth Community to the alt

2771
02:00:13,729 --> 02:00:11,520
media community that they're kind of

2772
02:00:15,350 --> 02:00:13,739
going off the rails well in the last

2773
02:00:18,729 --> 02:00:15,360
year they've gone further off the rails

2774
02:00:21,290 --> 02:00:18,739
it's it's just it's stupid it's just

2775
02:00:23,270 --> 02:00:21,300
suffer fools gladly it's just one

2776
02:00:26,689 --> 02:00:23,280
foolish idea after another it's gone

2777
02:00:29,089 --> 02:00:26,699
from Flat Earth to uh heliocentric uh

2778
02:00:31,129 --> 02:00:29,099
you know kind of uh whatever the

2779
02:00:34,310 --> 02:00:31,139
opposite of heliocentric is you know so

2780
02:00:36,530 --> 02:00:34,320
it's like and these ideas have to be

2781
02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:36,540
presented it has a wokeness to it you

2782
02:00:42,470 --> 02:00:39,599
know these ideas have to be presented on

2783
02:00:44,510 --> 02:00:42,480
an equal basis maybe that's true we

2784
02:00:48,290 --> 02:00:44,520
really can't plant our flag in the

2785
02:00:50,030 --> 02:00:48,300
ground maybe the sun really does revolve

2786
02:00:53,149 --> 02:00:50,040
around the earth let's talk about that

2787
02:00:55,129 --> 02:00:53,159
seriously no we really don't need to

2788
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,139
talk about it seriously but what we

2789
02:01:01,070 --> 02:00:58,560
maybe don't need to do also is kind of

2790
02:01:03,290 --> 02:01:01,080
spend a lot of time worrying about why

2791
02:01:06,589 --> 02:01:03,300
people are going there and maybe we need

2792
02:01:10,669 --> 02:01:06,599
to find a connection back to the heart

2793
02:01:13,310 --> 02:01:10,679
the love the yeah the light that's in US

2794
02:01:15,530 --> 02:01:13,320
yeah yeah well the Coalition but in your

2795
02:01:17,390 --> 02:01:15,540
Coalition you wanted the big tent right

2796
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:17,400
this is the big tent small tent thing

2797
02:01:21,290 --> 02:01:19,920
depending on the case of course but you

2798
02:01:23,810 --> 02:01:21,300
you you're complaining about the

2799
02:01:27,109 --> 02:01:23,820
fragmentation of of The Counter Culture

2800
02:01:30,109 --> 02:01:27,119
which is real it's true which is uh the

2801
02:01:32,209 --> 02:01:30,119
only thing that can can help it is the

2802
02:01:34,250 --> 02:01:32,219
correlation thinking

2803
02:01:38,030 --> 02:01:34,260
but when it comes to Surfer fools gladly

2804
02:01:40,189 --> 02:01:38,040
well I mean when in Rome right

2805
02:01:42,109 --> 02:01:40,199
um everything will become a battle man

2806
02:01:44,930 --> 02:01:42,119
you'll you'll you'll end up alone the

2807
02:01:47,030 --> 02:01:44,940
end is now you will carry those signs

2808
02:01:48,709 --> 02:01:47,040
down the street nobody will listen the

2809
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,719
more you push on someone who's not ready

2810
02:01:53,450 --> 02:01:51,599
the more they will Retreat this is why

2811
02:01:56,030 --> 02:01:53,460
the Masons are brilliant they are saying

2812
02:02:00,109 --> 02:01:56,040
no we got something exclusive going here

2813
02:02:02,510 --> 02:02:00,119
uh you have to come to us and knock and

2814
02:02:04,609 --> 02:02:02,520
maybe that's what the rationale of the

2815
02:02:06,709 --> 02:02:04,619
Skeptics remember we discussed this back

2816
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:06,719
in the day why are they retreating why

2817
02:02:10,490 --> 02:02:08,400
are they now creating their own places

2818
02:02:12,350 --> 02:02:10,500
for discussion but nobody but not

2819
02:02:14,089 --> 02:02:12,360
discussing with anyone outside maybe

2820
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:14,099
because they want to radiate an

2821
02:02:19,310 --> 02:02:16,320
exclusiveness everybody knows about them

2822
02:02:21,410 --> 02:02:19,320
now and they know where to find them and

2823
02:02:23,209 --> 02:02:21,420
now let's make some fun in our own house

2824
02:02:24,950 --> 02:02:23,219
let's have a party in our own house so

2825
02:02:26,750 --> 02:02:24,960
people want to come and join our party

2826
02:02:29,030 --> 02:02:26,760
maybe some kind of strategy like this

2827
02:02:30,890 --> 02:02:29,040
because we know yes I love this yeah

2828
02:02:32,270 --> 02:02:30,900
because they have good strategists I

2829
02:02:35,510 --> 02:02:32,280
love this yeah but we can do the same

2830
02:02:37,129 --> 02:02:35,520
yes that's what that's what's emerging

2831
02:02:39,530 --> 02:02:37,139
right now I'm not saying I'm going in

2832
02:02:42,770 --> 02:02:39,540
this direction but hey hey that's the

2833
02:02:45,589 --> 02:02:42,780
maybe that's skeptical 3.0 is

2834
02:02:49,010 --> 02:02:45,599
it's a private club with a small

2835
02:02:53,270 --> 02:02:49,020
membership please unsubscribe either

2836
02:02:55,370 --> 02:02:53,280
that or it's a huge Club but we have

2837
02:02:56,589 --> 02:02:55,380
like 10 different parties going on in

2838
02:03:00,890 --> 02:02:56,599
the same time

2839
02:03:03,229 --> 02:03:00,900
that's my house come in come in and if

2840
02:03:04,669 --> 02:03:03,239
you wanna if you okay I just like techno

2841
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:04,679
party I don't like a classical concert

2842
02:03:10,310 --> 02:03:07,560
well okay fine but here the door is open

2843
02:03:12,530 --> 02:03:10,320
you want to come in well I like Al as a

2844
02:03:15,109 --> 02:03:12,540
conductor I see he can be a DJ there and

2845
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:15,119
keeping conductor in the symphony let me

2846
02:03:19,550 --> 02:03:17,040
peek in the symphony room and see what's

2847
02:03:21,410 --> 02:03:19,560
going on and then oh I'm enthralled I

2848
02:03:23,570 --> 02:03:21,420
didn't know I'll even enjoyed this I'm

2849
02:03:25,250 --> 02:03:23,580
sitting down and checking it out or this

2850
02:03:27,649 --> 02:03:25,260
is not for me I'm retreating back to the

2851
02:03:30,709 --> 02:03:27,659
Techno party this is how people are you

2852
02:03:32,689 --> 02:03:30,719
can't expect anything less and I for one

2853
02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:32,699
I kind of choose it's interesting if you

2854
02:03:37,850 --> 02:03:34,920
choose each each own method then because

2855
02:03:39,430 --> 02:03:37,860
we can assess and evaluate every year we

2856
02:03:42,410 --> 02:03:39,440
hook up right

2857
02:03:45,410 --> 02:03:42,420
how does it work for you I think in the

2858
02:03:48,290 --> 02:03:45,420
Instagram duration model I think that if

2859
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:48,300
stuff was pedagogically angled to

2860
02:03:52,609 --> 02:03:50,639
everyone I think many of these knuckle

2861
02:03:55,550 --> 02:03:52,619
draggers if they realized there was a

2862
02:03:57,410 --> 02:03:55,560
real option to dragging Knuckles they

2863
02:04:00,229 --> 02:03:57,420
would maybe take that option because

2864
02:04:02,810 --> 02:04:00,239
everybody has inside them as you started

2865
02:04:04,870 --> 02:04:02,820
out this show to declare everybody has

2866
02:04:08,330 --> 02:04:04,880
this longing we're all part of the same

2867
02:04:11,629 --> 02:04:08,340
we're all of the light so even the

2868
02:04:13,550 --> 02:04:11,639
hardest sleeper can be woken but yeah we

2869
02:04:15,950 --> 02:04:13,560
have to again when in Rome we have to

2870
02:04:18,109 --> 02:04:15,960
tailor it to the individual they all

2871
02:04:20,270 --> 02:04:18,119
need different angles into the Awakening

2872
02:04:22,430 --> 02:04:20,280
and if you push it you're gonna scare

2873
02:04:26,030 --> 02:04:22,440
them away Bernardo Castro who you

2874
02:04:28,550 --> 02:04:26,040
tortured with your climate gate approach

2875
02:04:31,850 --> 02:04:28,560
I mean you know you could have him on

2876
02:04:34,250 --> 02:04:31,860
and on and on for other subject that day

2877
02:04:37,310 --> 02:04:34,260
and he would be a never-ending resource

2878
02:04:39,470 --> 02:04:37,320
but if he Retreats and recoils and

2879
02:04:41,810 --> 02:04:39,480
becomes skeptical because you push an

2880
02:04:44,689 --> 02:04:41,820
issue a button he's not ready to and I'm

2881
02:04:47,629 --> 02:04:44,699
not I don't mean to to like hang him out

2882
02:04:51,169 --> 02:04:47,639
to dry hair this goes for all of us

2883
02:04:53,530 --> 02:04:51,179
no because he doesn't he he does not he

2884
02:04:56,629 --> 02:04:53,540
is you know our conversation was very

2885
02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:56,639
engaging and he was in it to begin to

2886
02:05:00,470 --> 02:04:58,320
handle it like a man he did and he

2887
02:05:03,649 --> 02:05:00,480
handles it like yeah not only yeah like

2888
02:05:05,510 --> 02:05:03,659
hey you want to go throw down let's go I

2889
02:05:07,790 --> 02:05:05,520
respect the [\h__\h] out of this so look we

2890
02:05:10,370 --> 02:05:07,800
have to move on to this yeah okay so as

2891
02:05:12,410 --> 02:05:10,380
we move towards wrapping this up what up

2892
02:05:14,810 --> 02:05:12,420
what else do you have from Forum Boreal

2893
02:05:16,910 --> 02:05:14,820
yeah I have a lost yeah I have a lost

2894
02:05:18,890 --> 02:05:16,920
issue and we can go on because I want to

2895
02:05:21,050 --> 02:05:18,900
play a clip over my show and get your

2896
02:05:23,990 --> 02:05:21,060
comment on it awesome this is one of our

2897
02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:24,000
contention spots I think but it doesn't

2898
02:05:28,129 --> 02:05:26,639
need to be but if it is so be it but I

2899
02:05:30,350 --> 02:05:28,139
really want to pick your brain on this

2900
02:05:31,910 --> 02:05:30,360
because we've been dancing around it I

2901
02:05:36,530 --> 02:05:31,920
want to play the end

2902
02:05:38,750 --> 02:05:36,540
of my show called not uaps explained

2903
02:05:41,330 --> 02:05:38,760
um it's called portal of high

2904
02:05:43,970 --> 02:05:41,340
strangeness now let's see if I can share

2905
02:05:49,129 --> 02:05:47,149
any culture will tend to interpret any

2906
02:05:51,709 --> 02:05:49,139
new phenomenon in terms of its own

2907
02:05:54,050 --> 02:05:51,719
technology have this all occurred in

2908
02:05:55,370 --> 02:05:54,060
Middle Ages that have been given a

2909
02:05:57,709 --> 02:05:55,380
totally different interpretation of

2910
02:05:59,810 --> 02:05:57,719
women in religious activity we met for

2911
02:06:03,410 --> 02:05:59,820
the Space Age therefore it is very

2912
02:06:05,689 --> 02:06:03,420
logical for a new phenomena to start to

2913
02:06:08,750 --> 02:06:05,699
be interpreted in the in terms of our

2914
02:06:11,089 --> 02:06:08,760
own advanced technology

2915
02:06:13,250 --> 02:06:11,099
um it's also Complicated by the fact

2916
02:06:14,990 --> 02:06:13,260
that astronomy has arrived at the point

2917
02:06:17,930 --> 02:06:15,000
we know enough now about the evolution

2918
02:06:21,169 --> 02:06:17,940
of stars to make it extremely likely

2919
02:06:23,810 --> 02:06:21,179
that there are many other intelligences

2920
02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:23,820
in the universe but there I think we

2921
02:06:28,910 --> 02:06:25,920
have to follow Arthur C Clarke in

2922
02:06:31,729 --> 02:06:28,920
pointing out that we take perhaps a much

2923
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:31,739
too narrow view of what intelligence and

2924
02:06:36,830 --> 02:06:34,560
light is in the universe may be

2925
02:06:39,169 --> 02:06:36,840
we live on a water planet

2926
02:06:41,629 --> 02:06:39,179
it's very logical therefore there are

2927
02:06:43,209 --> 02:06:41,639
where our bodies are mostly watered it

2928
02:06:45,950 --> 02:06:43,219
could be that our Consciousness

2929
02:06:49,370 --> 02:06:45,960
expressing itself through protoplasma

2930
02:06:51,890 --> 02:06:49,380
through our particular chemistry there

2931
02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:51,900
are bits of information today indicating

2932
02:06:56,030 --> 02:06:53,280
that you know for instance the George

2933
02:06:58,850 --> 02:06:56,040
wall and Harvard feel that Consciousness

2934
02:07:01,669 --> 02:06:58,860
is the most important factor and that

2935
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:01,679
Consciousness can exist in many forms

2936
02:07:07,129 --> 02:07:04,800
and we are one of those forms so hey as

2937
02:07:08,870 --> 02:07:07,139
somebody said the whole question of this

2938
02:07:11,209 --> 02:07:08,880
trying to communicate with life

2939
02:07:14,209 --> 02:07:11,219
elsewhere is like the not yet born

2940
02:07:16,490 --> 02:07:14,219
talking to the long-sense Dead

2941
02:07:19,550 --> 02:07:16,500
because it takes so long for anything to

2942
02:07:22,430 --> 02:07:19,560
get furthermore in that Civilization

2943
02:07:25,370 --> 02:07:22,440
might regard radio as we regard jungle

2944
02:07:28,129 --> 02:07:25,380
dramas or smoke signals maybe long since

2945
02:07:29,930 --> 02:07:28,139
have passed the radio stage of of

2946
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:29,940
communication

2947
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,920
but still I think it's important that

2948
02:07:37,490 --> 02:07:34,800
this program continue because it is it's

2949
02:07:39,890 --> 02:07:37,500
a an adventure and it should be done and

2950
02:07:43,250 --> 02:07:39,900
it would be philosophically important to

2951
02:07:46,490 --> 02:07:43,260
find out that there is some intelligent

2952
02:07:48,770 --> 02:07:46,500
elsewhere so my own philosophical

2953
02:07:51,709 --> 02:07:48,780
feeling about the UFO phenomenon is that

2954
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:51,719
when all is said and done it represents

2955
02:07:56,930 --> 02:07:54,480
some form of intelligence but whether

2956
02:07:59,689 --> 02:07:56,940
that intelligence is from great

2957
02:08:02,390 --> 02:07:59,699
distances away or whether it is perhaps

2958
02:08:05,750 --> 02:08:02,400
much closer to us in a parallel reality

2959
02:08:07,910 --> 02:08:05,760
or another dimension or whether it is in

2960
02:08:10,609 --> 02:08:07,920
some strange way a product of our own

2961
02:08:13,310 --> 02:08:10,619
intelligence our own psyche

2962
02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:13,320
I don't know this is the this is the

2963
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:14,639
research problem

2964
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:16,800
that it's in that it seems to be

2965
02:08:20,649 --> 02:08:18,480
programmed that it seems to have an

2966
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:20,659
intelligence of its own I think years

2967
02:08:25,129 --> 02:08:23,280
unmistakable if anyone who studies the

2968
02:08:26,930 --> 02:08:25,139
subject just sees that put the quick we

2969
02:08:29,149 --> 02:08:26,940
must not jump to the conclusions that

2970
02:08:30,050 --> 02:08:29,159
because it has an intelligence of its

2971
02:08:32,089 --> 02:08:30,060
own

2972
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:32,099
it is necessarily

2973
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:34,320
Victorious from outer space

2974
02:08:39,290 --> 02:08:37,440
it may be in some strange way connected

2975
02:08:41,450 --> 02:08:39,300
with that intelligence if that

2976
02:08:45,770 --> 02:08:41,460
intelligence can in some way project

2977
02:08:47,810 --> 02:08:45,780
itself down here yeah that's the that's

2978
02:08:49,729 --> 02:08:47,820
the quote I wanted to share with you

2979
02:08:52,250 --> 02:08:49,739
this was of course

2980
02:08:54,649 --> 02:08:52,260
Dr Arlen high neck

2981
02:08:56,330 --> 02:08:54,659
I'm sure you're aware of him yeah it's

2982
02:08:58,310 --> 02:08:56,340
just super outdated I mean it's no

2983
02:09:00,109 --> 02:08:58,320
longer relevant but that's okay actually

2984
02:09:01,010 --> 02:09:00,119
it's not outdated he was ahead of his

2985
02:09:04,189 --> 02:09:01,020
time

2986
02:09:06,229 --> 02:09:04,199
in there he gave us it's up it's updated

2987
02:09:09,290 --> 02:09:06,239
it's updated you just go to my interview

2988
02:09:12,649 --> 02:09:09,300
with Bernardo castrip like in Bernardo

2989
02:09:14,570 --> 02:09:12,659
is an embodiment of this kind of thing

2990
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:14,580
that you're talking about you know he's

2991
02:09:19,729 --> 02:09:17,360
has to acknowledge UFOs because

2992
02:09:21,589 --> 02:09:19,739
they've been made incredibly public

2993
02:09:23,450 --> 02:09:21,599
because it's not entitled to his own

2994
02:09:26,030 --> 02:09:23,460
facts that's why he has to acknowledge

2995
02:09:29,330 --> 02:09:26,040
it exactly and just so people understand

2996
02:09:32,089 --> 02:09:29,340
what you're saying it is now fact that

2997
02:09:33,950 --> 02:09:32,099
there itself so but then what Bernardo

2998
02:09:36,890 --> 02:09:33,960
still likes to smile and chuckle a

2999
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:36,900
little bit at the idea of E.T and what

3000
02:09:42,050 --> 02:09:39,360
the clip I played for Bernardo if you

3001
02:09:45,290 --> 02:09:42,060
remember from that show was I said oh

3002
02:09:48,169 --> 02:09:45,300
okay great Bernardo you now have this uh

3003
02:09:50,689 --> 02:09:48,179
really cool Foundation that this

3004
02:09:53,149 --> 02:09:50,699
billionaire from the Netherlands has set

3005
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:53,159
you up in and uh sentia and you know

3006
02:09:59,209 --> 02:09:57,119
you're now able to pursue your own path

3007
02:10:01,910 --> 02:09:59,219
in terms of Consciousness and who's on

3008
02:10:04,729 --> 02:10:01,920
the border your directors oh uh let's

3009
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:04,739
see here it's um Jeffrey kreypel from

3010
02:10:08,990 --> 02:10:06,239
Rice University been on the show

3011
02:10:12,050 --> 02:10:09,000
multiple times let's listen to Jeffrey

3012
02:10:14,689 --> 02:10:12,060
kreipel's interview with

3013
02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:14,699
um oh my God yeah with Dr Diana Walsh

3014
02:10:21,169 --> 02:10:18,719
pasoka and um Whitley strieber and let's

3015
02:10:23,089 --> 02:10:21,179
take note of the fact that Jeffrey

3016
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:23,099
[\h__\h] wrote a book with Whitley

3017
02:10:28,430 --> 02:10:25,679
streber just to remind folks Whitley is

3018
02:10:30,770 --> 02:10:28,440
probably the most well-known abductee

3019
02:10:32,270 --> 02:10:30,780
alien abductee in history wrote the book

3020
02:10:33,890 --> 02:10:32,280
communion had the thing on the cover

3021
02:10:35,450 --> 02:10:33,900
with the alien all the rest of this

3022
02:10:37,729 --> 02:10:35,460
stuff has been on this show multiple

3023
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:37,739
times tells a story of MK Ultra

3024
02:10:42,890 --> 02:10:40,639
Abduction the whole thing so now

3025
02:10:46,070 --> 02:10:42,900
bernardo's kind of in a rock and a tough

3026
02:10:49,490 --> 02:10:46,080
in a hard place right this Jeff [\h__\h]

3027
02:10:52,030 --> 02:10:49,500
is on his Advisory Board of the Essentia

3028
02:10:54,350 --> 02:10:52,040
Foundation they're in sync

3029
02:10:57,050 --> 02:10:54,360
unconsciousness all the rest of this but

3030
02:10:58,609 --> 02:10:57,060
wait a minute here he is totally he's

3031
02:11:00,950 --> 02:10:58,619
written a book with Whitley strieber

3032
02:11:03,410 --> 02:11:00,960
he's totally on board with the fact that

3033
02:11:05,689 --> 02:11:03,420
Whitley has had the abduction EXP

3034
02:11:07,370 --> 02:11:05,699
variants he has shared the abduction

3035
02:11:09,649 --> 02:11:07,380
experience with other people who have

3036
02:11:11,510 --> 02:11:09,659
visited the cabin right so Whitley says

3037
02:11:13,490 --> 02:11:11,520
hey these aliens come in and abduct Me

3038
02:11:16,250 --> 02:11:13,500
and now he has a visitors to his house

3039
02:11:19,010 --> 02:11:16,260
and they go holy [\h__\h] there were aliens

3040
02:11:20,870 --> 02:11:19,020
in the cabin last night and he goes yeah

3041
02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:20,880
that's what I've been telling you guys

3042
02:11:26,149 --> 02:11:23,760
and also in that interview is Dr Diana

3043
02:11:29,689 --> 02:11:26,159
Walsh pasulka who is religious studies

3044
02:11:32,330 --> 02:11:29,699
professor in North Carolina and um

3045
02:11:34,850 --> 02:11:32,340
just kind of stumbled into the UFO thing

3046
02:11:38,570 --> 02:11:34,860
but what does she tell all of us in that

3047
02:11:40,490 --> 02:11:38,580
interview that I played is that hey this

3048
02:11:42,169 --> 02:11:40,500
is back to the scientific method the

3049
02:11:45,229 --> 02:11:42,179
thing that really differentiated my book

3050
02:11:48,350 --> 02:11:45,239
American Cosmic is that I did field

3051
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:48,360
research I was out there with Tyler

3052
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:52,560
Durden pseudonym and uh and we collected

3053
02:11:58,250 --> 02:11:55,920
samples the same that I always remind

3054
02:12:00,649 --> 02:11:58,260
people the same that Dr Jacques filet

3055
02:12:03,250 --> 02:12:00,659
the same kind that Jacque Valley keeps

3056
02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:03,260
in his pocket that are unexplainable

3057
02:12:08,030 --> 02:12:06,000
from a material standpoint you take our

3058
02:12:10,850 --> 02:12:08,040
best scientists and you say how would we

3059
02:12:13,070 --> 02:12:10,860
manufacture this material here on our

3060
02:12:15,530 --> 02:12:13,080
planet and they go can't do it we don't

3061
02:12:18,050 --> 02:12:15,540
know how to do this is this organic

3062
02:12:19,729 --> 02:12:18,060
material no this looks like material

3063
02:12:20,930 --> 02:12:19,739
that was engineered by some highly

3064
02:12:22,910 --> 02:12:20,940
intelligent because look how it's

3065
02:12:25,250 --> 02:12:22,920
layered kind of like our little computer

3066
02:12:29,209 --> 02:12:25,260
chips so no

3067
02:12:31,790 --> 02:12:29,219
the discussion has moved past well we

3068
02:12:33,890 --> 02:12:31,800
don't really know what it is and maybe

3069
02:12:36,589 --> 02:12:33,900
they're listening to the radio or not no

3070
02:12:38,750 --> 02:12:36,599
uh this is again kind of this is what

3071
02:12:41,810 --> 02:12:38,760
drives people nuts about but because I

3072
02:12:44,450 --> 02:12:41,820
sound so confident and I I'm not

3073
02:12:47,689 --> 02:12:44,460
confident I'm just saying Occam's razor

3074
02:12:50,689 --> 02:12:47,699
suggests the best evidence suggests that

3075
02:12:52,609 --> 02:12:50,699
is highly likely that all these

3076
02:12:54,530 --> 02:12:52,619
traditional cultures throughout time

3077
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:54,540
like the Native American cultures or the

3078
02:12:58,609 --> 02:12:56,880
cultures in Africa who've said see those

3079
02:13:00,530 --> 02:12:58,619
Stars up there that's where they came

3080
02:13:02,149 --> 02:13:00,540
from and they came down and told us

3081
02:13:03,410 --> 02:13:02,159
that's where they came from and if you

3082
02:13:04,970 --> 02:13:03,420
look really carefully through your

3083
02:13:06,890 --> 02:13:04,980
telescopes that aren't Advanced enough

3084
02:13:08,810 --> 02:13:06,900
to see it you'll see that that star is

3085
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:08,820
really a twin star and then 50 years

3086
02:13:12,649 --> 02:13:10,560
later they look and go oh [\h__\h] we didn't

3087
02:13:14,270 --> 02:13:12,659
have the telescope to say that those

3088
02:13:16,370 --> 02:13:14,280
freaking Africans out there that don't

3089
02:13:18,410 --> 02:13:16,380
even have a written language it is a

3090
02:13:20,810 --> 02:13:18,420
freaking Twin Star but they haven't so

3091
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:20,820
inherited wisdom you've seen ancient

3092
02:13:26,270 --> 02:13:23,040
apocalypse on Netflix with the Hancock

3093
02:13:28,370 --> 02:13:26,280
do you get my point you get my point is

3094
02:13:30,109 --> 02:13:28,380
the discussion I've always gotten your

3095
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:30,119
point it's you who doesn't get mine I

3096
02:13:34,430 --> 02:13:31,679
think then tell me because the

3097
02:13:37,370 --> 02:13:34,440
discussion has moved past Occam's razor

3098
02:13:40,609 --> 02:13:37,380
suggests that the most parsimonious

3099
02:13:42,169 --> 02:13:40,619
answer to the ET question is they come

3100
02:13:44,089 --> 02:13:42,179
from other freaking planets and we don't

3101
02:13:46,609 --> 02:13:44,099
know how they get here and we don't know

3102
02:13:50,089 --> 02:13:46,619
how they cross that barrier but the

3103
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:50,099
burden of proof is on those who and is

3104
02:13:55,010 --> 02:13:52,079
there interdimensionality to it of

3105
02:13:57,410 --> 02:13:55,020
course that our best guess in terms of

3106
02:14:00,649 --> 02:13:57,420
how they travel here suggests some kind

3107
02:14:03,709 --> 02:14:00,659
of interdimensional reality but it

3108
02:14:06,410 --> 02:14:03,719
doesn't preclude what we generally

3109
02:14:09,109 --> 02:14:06,420
experience and understand to be

3110
02:14:10,850 --> 02:14:09,119
ET is that ET is Somehow Here is somehow

3111
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:10,860
Among Us has always been Among Us has

3112
02:14:15,709 --> 02:14:12,480
been a part of this that is the most

3113
02:14:19,729 --> 02:14:15,719
parsimonious explanation for the data at

3114
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:19,739
hand and [\h__\h] Nazis at Roswell is

3115
02:14:25,129 --> 02:14:22,320
probably not the most parsimonious

3116
02:14:27,350 --> 02:14:25,139
explanation okay well uh

3117
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:27,360
follow you all the way until you come at

3118
02:14:31,490 --> 02:14:29,280
the conclusion that this is the more no

3119
02:14:33,950 --> 02:14:31,500
and and you have to back it up and and

3120
02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:33,960
but I agree about we're not entitled to

3121
02:14:37,609 --> 02:14:36,480
our own facts and I agree that we have

3122
02:14:41,089 --> 02:14:37,619
to use

3123
02:14:42,770 --> 02:14:41,099
Occam's razor now then consider the

3124
02:14:44,870 --> 02:14:42,780
following first of all you know who

3125
02:14:47,350 --> 02:14:44,880
agrees with you you know who applauds

3126
02:14:50,089 --> 02:14:47,360
that we should have this alien ET

3127
02:14:52,250 --> 02:14:50,099
perspective just to this isn't my big

3128
02:14:54,109 --> 02:14:52,260
argument against it I'm just making you

3129
02:14:56,209 --> 02:14:54,119
aware of which tent you just stumble

3130
02:14:58,490 --> 02:14:56,219
into that's the CIA stand it's the

3131
02:15:01,010 --> 02:14:58,500
Pentagon stand it's Tom de Longo you

3132
02:15:04,250 --> 02:15:01,020
love his tent all of these people are

3133
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:04,260
saying no uh it's a threat they these

3134
02:15:09,229 --> 02:15:06,719
are spaceships you're mixing you're

3135
02:15:11,569 --> 02:15:09,239
mixing two things one is the the real

3136
02:15:14,030 --> 02:15:11,579
Hollywood agrees with you but you're

3137
02:15:16,910 --> 02:15:14,040
you're conflating two things one is the

3138
02:15:18,830 --> 02:15:16,920
reality of the E.T presence and the

3139
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:18,840
second is that there's some kind of

3140
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:20,880
national security threat that the the

3141
02:15:26,270 --> 02:15:23,760
only response is the Pentagon I mean the

3142
02:15:29,270 --> 02:15:26,280
second is is absurd right but the movie

3143
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:29,280
look it's a both the both been pushing

3144
02:15:34,250 --> 02:15:31,440
the fair element you know invasion of

3145
02:15:37,370 --> 02:15:34,260
the body's nature so uh independence day

3146
02:15:39,470 --> 02:15:37,380
but they also are pushing their little

3147
02:15:41,689 --> 02:15:39,480
green man on Mars perspective in

3148
02:15:43,609 --> 02:15:41,699
addition the movie E.T is an example

3149
02:15:46,729 --> 02:15:43,619
there's many other movies where the

3150
02:15:50,629 --> 02:15:46,739
aliens aren't the bad guy so and let us

3151
02:15:52,669 --> 02:15:50,639
know is this Avatar thing so no you are

3152
02:15:54,830 --> 02:15:52,679
in bed whether you like it or not at

3153
02:15:56,990 --> 02:15:54,840
least stand up and admit that and just

3154
02:15:58,729 --> 02:15:57,000
say Okay coincidentally I'm in bed with

3155
02:16:00,709 --> 02:15:58,739
the bad guys no no you're

3156
02:16:02,990 --> 02:16:00,719
misunderstanding you're misunderstanding

3157
02:16:05,689 --> 02:16:03,000
the the understanding of the evidence

3158
02:16:08,810 --> 02:16:05,699
that suggests that we are in that

3159
02:16:11,149 --> 02:16:08,820
President's evidence yet but but it has

3160
02:16:13,189 --> 02:16:11,159
nothing to do with them you're saying

3161
02:16:16,669 --> 02:16:13,199
who agrees with you but that doesn't cut

3162
02:16:18,589 --> 02:16:16,679
it doesn't you know you could Guilty By

3163
02:16:21,589 --> 02:16:18,599
Association you know I mean does

3164
02:16:23,689 --> 02:16:21,599
everyone be suspicious in Germany who is

3165
02:16:25,609 --> 02:16:23,699
of a particular a political party are

3166
02:16:27,950 --> 02:16:25,619
they all neo-nazis just because they

3167
02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:27,960
right you know no it doesn't no that's

3168
02:16:31,790 --> 02:16:30,000
not how we that's not how we do things

3169
02:16:34,490 --> 02:16:31,800
but that's not my point that's not my

3170
02:16:36,410 --> 02:16:34,500
point I'm saying the big forces the

3171
02:16:40,610 --> 02:16:36,420
forces with the money and the decisions

3172
02:16:43,370 --> 02:16:40,620
are endorsing this Paradigm in fact they

3173
02:16:46,150 --> 02:16:43,380
would we know from Werner Von Braun who

3174
02:16:48,110 --> 02:16:46,160
admitted that they're gonna make Fair of

3175
02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:48,120
Rogue comments they're going to make

3176
02:16:53,450 --> 02:16:50,639
Fair of nations of concern terrorism and

3177
02:16:56,150 --> 02:16:53,460
the lost card will be Invasion from

3178
02:16:58,009 --> 02:16:56,160
space so there is a paradigm that is

3179
02:16:59,690 --> 02:16:58,019
backed up whether it's right or wrong

3180
02:17:02,089 --> 02:16:59,700
maybe it's right maybe that's why they

3181
02:17:04,849 --> 02:17:02,099
admit it but this Paradigm has been

3182
02:17:07,849 --> 02:17:04,859
backed up from Hollywood it was the

3183
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:07,859
first thing even before the UFO Flaps in

3184
02:17:13,310 --> 02:17:10,800
the after the war it was still a belief

3185
02:17:15,770 --> 02:17:13,320
how it is hell I I gotta jump in there

3186
02:17:17,450 --> 02:17:15,780
again because I I just I feel like you

3187
02:17:19,250 --> 02:17:17,460
don't really understand the whole

3188
02:17:20,750 --> 02:17:19,260
playing field on the UFO I feel like

3189
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,760
you're kind of we haven't even gotten to

3190
02:17:25,190 --> 02:17:23,040
the discussion I'm still hold on I think

3191
02:17:26,810 --> 02:17:25,200
you I think you're slow I think you're

3192
02:17:28,730 --> 02:17:26,820
kind of slow to the party okay the

3193
02:17:31,549 --> 02:17:28,740
debates I've been having over the last

3194
02:17:35,450 --> 02:17:31,559
couple years are with people like Grant

3195
02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:35,460
Cameron who is very much in the ET camp

3196
02:17:40,310 --> 02:17:37,439
but is also in the Consciousness camp

3197
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:40,320
and believes that E.T but these folks

3198
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:43,439
are con they have somehow pigeonholed

3199
02:17:47,929 --> 02:17:44,880
themselves into the thing that there can

3200
02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:47,939
be no bad that E.T is good right this is

3201
02:17:53,030 --> 02:17:50,399
kind of the organ Greer Stephen Greer

3202
02:17:54,709 --> 02:17:53,040
times 10 which is the so when those

3203
02:17:56,389 --> 02:17:54,719
people you go okay what about the

3204
02:17:59,629 --> 02:17:56,399
evidence of

3205
02:18:01,190 --> 02:17:59,639
sexual contact sexual rape between E.T

3206
02:18:03,530 --> 02:18:01,200
what are we supposed to do with that

3207
02:18:05,389 --> 02:18:03,540
whether we will take it uh mentally

3208
02:18:07,310 --> 02:18:05,399
mutilation but that's not what I want to

3209
02:18:09,169 --> 02:18:07,320
discuss now you're taking the distance

3210
02:18:11,629 --> 02:18:09,179
let me just make sure but here's my

3211
02:18:13,790 --> 02:18:11,639
point you you could if you want to

3212
02:18:16,129 --> 02:18:13,800
pigeonhole me with the Pentagon folks

3213
02:18:18,650 --> 02:18:16,139
you could just as easily pigeonhole me

3214
02:18:21,410 --> 02:18:18,660
with uh Grant Cameron and Ray Hernandez

3215
02:18:24,530 --> 02:18:21,420
and the love and light them the majority

3216
02:18:26,209 --> 02:18:24,540
well neither one neither one it goes

3217
02:18:28,009 --> 02:18:26,219
back to the 30s that's when people

3218
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:28,019
started to believe in Little Green Man

3219
02:18:32,089 --> 02:18:30,479
on on other planets this is an you

3220
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:32,099
you're talking as if this is some kind

3221
02:18:35,690 --> 02:18:34,080
of Revolution maybe you relate to this

3222
02:18:37,849 --> 02:18:35,700
party but this part has been going on

3223
02:18:40,009 --> 02:18:37,859
since before the second world war all

3224
02:18:42,589 --> 02:18:40,019
I'm saying is before I haven't I haven't

3225
02:18:45,889 --> 02:18:42,599
even discussed the case yet but all I'm

3226
02:18:48,290 --> 02:18:45,899
saying is that the views I'm uh pointing

3227
02:18:51,530 --> 02:18:48,300
to as potential more plausible

3228
02:18:54,349 --> 02:18:51,540
explanations are getting less air by the

3229
02:18:56,330 --> 02:18:54,359
power no that's all now Guilty by you

3230
02:18:59,389 --> 02:18:56,340
are not guilty Cameron is a true belief

3231
02:19:01,549 --> 02:18:59,399
where he's not guilty but I find it

3232
02:19:03,650 --> 02:19:01,559
interesting at least that the wrong

3233
02:19:06,290 --> 02:19:03,660
people are endorsing because these are

3234
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:06,300
the same people who also endorse the air

3235
02:19:13,070 --> 02:19:08,880
balloon and the swamp gas because they

3236
02:19:14,629 --> 02:19:13,080
know a certain segment won't buy the the

3237
02:19:16,969 --> 02:19:14,639
explanation that the Skeptics will buy

3238
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:16,979
so we need to cater to them too we throw

3239
02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:19,439
them a bone and that's your alien in my

3240
02:19:26,030 --> 02:19:22,880
view now let's get to the facts

3241
02:19:27,889 --> 02:19:26,040
Richard Dolan have both done a very

3242
02:19:29,690 --> 02:19:27,899
interesting thing that very few has done

3243
02:19:30,770 --> 02:19:29,700
in this field which is the basic you

3244
02:19:33,950 --> 02:19:30,780
should do

3245
02:19:36,110 --> 02:19:33,960
and that's and I asked Dr erling stron

3246
02:19:38,450 --> 02:19:36,120
that I interviewed who saw uh scientist

3247
02:19:41,270 --> 02:19:38,460
who's investigating this in Norway Stone

3248
02:19:42,169 --> 02:19:41,280
since the 80s if you folks shelter for

3249
02:19:45,589 --> 02:19:42,179
my show

3250
02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:45,599
portal of strange highness it's um the

3251
02:19:50,750 --> 02:19:47,519
longest running white public

3252
02:19:53,150 --> 02:19:50,760
investigation of ufps in the world

3253
02:19:54,650 --> 02:19:53,160
so and I asked him some of these

3254
02:19:56,270 --> 02:19:54,660
questions too and he asked Katie doing

3255
02:19:59,050 --> 02:19:56,280
the right calculations because he's an

3256
02:20:02,210 --> 02:19:59,060
engineer and Dolan has done does it and

3257
02:20:04,990 --> 02:20:02,220
also valet and Valeria I read his

3258
02:20:08,929 --> 02:20:05,000
analysis at the end of my interview with

3259
02:20:11,090 --> 02:20:08,939
nikook on uh it was called pentagon's

3260
02:20:12,410 --> 02:20:11,100
biggest secret I think you've you heard

3261
02:20:14,270 --> 02:20:12,420
that interview did you remember

3262
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:14,280
yesterday interviewed and then I

3263
02:20:18,290 --> 02:20:15,840
interviewed Nick cook as a result of

3264
02:20:21,310 --> 02:20:18,300
your yeah but do you remember that I

3265
02:20:24,349 --> 02:20:21,320
read a quote of valet at the end there

3266
02:20:27,050 --> 02:20:24,359
and this quote is called it's too many

3267
02:20:30,050 --> 02:20:27,060
Landings and what valedus Dolan has done

3268
02:20:32,270 --> 02:20:30,060
the same very simple math very simple

3269
02:20:34,670 --> 02:20:32,280
you just take account for the facts and

3270
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:34,680
you calculate how many Landings would

3271
02:20:39,710 --> 02:20:37,680
there be if we buy into that these are

3272
02:20:42,530 --> 02:20:39,720
spacecrafts from other planets that

3273
02:20:45,349 --> 02:20:42,540
coincidentally discovered often against

3274
02:20:47,150 --> 02:20:45,359
their will maybe it was a crash landing

3275
02:20:49,370 --> 02:20:47,160
maybe they were Landing to fix something

3276
02:20:51,230 --> 02:20:49,380
maybe they were Landing to whatever and

3277
02:20:53,270 --> 02:20:51,240
they would just go no I don't remember

3278
02:20:55,610 --> 02:20:53,280
the exact number now but they had to

3279
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:55,620
land like millions of times for this to

3280
02:21:02,570 --> 02:20:59,280
be a real uh for what it is so his only

3281
02:21:05,450 --> 02:21:02,580
conclusion would be that whatever they

3282
02:21:07,849 --> 02:21:05,460
are they are staged in other words they

3283
02:21:10,490 --> 02:21:07,859
are discovered because they want to be

3284
02:21:13,790 --> 02:21:10,500
discovered it's an intentional

3285
02:21:16,790 --> 02:21:13,800
College manipulation whatever it is it's

3286
02:21:18,889 --> 02:21:16,800
intentional that's the only conclusion

3287
02:21:21,950 --> 02:21:18,899
you can come that I can see from those

3288
02:21:23,929 --> 02:21:21,960
hard data that they have worked out and

3289
02:21:25,670 --> 02:21:23,939
be my guest to go through this data and

3290
02:21:27,410 --> 02:21:25,680
call me the better explanation but that

3291
02:21:30,349 --> 02:21:27,420
doesn't explain anything it just tells

3292
02:21:32,809 --> 02:21:30,359
us that they want to that it's staged

3293
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:32,819
somehow now you said that I don't agree

3294
02:21:37,910 --> 02:21:34,080
I don't agree with the assumptions

3295
02:21:40,610 --> 02:21:37,920
behind that uh calculation yes no I mean

3296
02:21:43,070 --> 02:21:40,620
there's there's a lot of numbers yes and

3297
02:21:45,170 --> 02:21:43,080
there's just a lot of huge assumptions

3298
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:45,180
that people are making in terms of what

3299
02:21:48,889 --> 02:21:46,800
would they be those huge assumptions

3300
02:21:50,750 --> 02:21:48,899
well one of the you just watched the

3301
02:21:53,389 --> 02:21:50,760
thing with Stephen Greer right in his

3302
02:21:57,849 --> 02:21:53,399
ce5 protocol do you remember the ce5

3303
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:57,859
protocol it is a conscious a meditative

3304
02:22:04,730 --> 02:22:00,960
extended Consciousness Connection with

3305
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:04,740
ET that directs E.T into the planet on

3306
02:22:08,750 --> 02:22:07,200
where to create a sighting okay and

3307
02:22:10,130 --> 02:22:08,760
that's hard for people to accept I don't

3308
02:22:12,050 --> 02:22:10,140
know that I accept it I'm not saying

3309
02:22:14,889 --> 02:22:12,060
that it's true but if you do look at the

3310
02:22:18,590 --> 02:22:14,899
evidence like of the the famous Nimitz

3311
02:22:20,690 --> 02:22:18,600
Tic Tac right you're on the same page I

3312
02:22:23,450 --> 02:22:20,700
interviewed Kevin day one of the the guy

3313
02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:23,460
who was on deck on the ship looked

3314
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:26,160
through the sink saw the things one

3315
02:22:30,469 --> 02:22:28,800
small aspect of that that a lot of

3316
02:22:32,929 --> 02:22:30,479
people know but some people forget is

3317
02:22:36,110 --> 02:22:32,939
that the fighters are sent up to

3318
02:22:39,530 --> 02:22:36,120
intercept the Tic Tac ETS out in the

3319
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:39,540
ocean 30 miles outside my window here in

3320
02:22:44,570 --> 02:22:42,479
San Diego and they go and they intercept

3321
02:22:47,330 --> 02:22:44,580
ET and ETS like Voom you know just like

3322
02:22:51,349 --> 02:22:47,340
60 000 miles an hour and all this so

3323
02:22:52,969 --> 02:22:51,359
they have a pre-determined safe space

3324
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:52,979
that they're going to go to this is some

3325
02:22:59,090 --> 02:22:56,160
coordinate in space that these that are

3326
02:23:01,490 --> 02:22:59,100
super fast Fighters are going to fly to

3327
02:23:04,250 --> 02:23:01,500
they fly to that space you know it's

3328
02:23:06,370 --> 02:23:04,260
like 50 miles five miles up and 50 miles

3329
02:23:08,990 --> 02:23:06,380
over and who's there

3330
02:23:11,870 --> 02:23:09,000
yes because it's all about Consciousness

3331
02:23:14,990 --> 02:23:11,880
you can't you can't get around E.T just

3332
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,000
by thinking that we have a plan meet

3333
02:23:19,730 --> 02:23:17,760
behind the shed you know well ET somehow

3334
02:23:21,410 --> 02:23:19,740
has some apparently some kind of

3335
02:23:27,429 --> 02:23:21,420
telepathic Link in this extent okay

3336
02:23:30,590 --> 02:23:27,439
right so that is not in Dolan's freaking

3337
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:30,600
calculation and we have something else

3338
02:23:35,570 --> 02:23:32,880
to talk about when we talk about Dolan

3339
02:23:38,030 --> 02:23:35,580
that I'll get to in a minute this is

3340
02:23:39,469 --> 02:23:38,040
exactly what they're approving uh these

3341
02:23:41,690 --> 02:23:39,479
guys when they do the calculations

3342
02:23:44,690 --> 02:23:41,700
they're proving that these aren't random

3343
02:23:46,670 --> 02:23:44,700
aircraft being interrupted or discovered

3344
02:23:48,889 --> 02:23:46,680
by us yeah but to the point though in

3345
02:23:52,490 --> 02:23:48,899
fact you just made a case for that yeah

3346
02:23:54,590 --> 02:23:52,500
but but your your uh interpretation of

3347
02:23:57,469 --> 02:23:54,600
the data was that then there we haven't

3348
02:23:59,090 --> 02:23:57,479
gotten to that yet well we got to it

3349
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:59,100
partially because you your partial

3350
02:24:04,570 --> 02:24:00,720
interpretation I managed to mention

3351
02:24:08,030 --> 02:24:04,580
starts yeah I didn't even start my rant

3352
02:24:10,490 --> 02:24:08,040
you did you did uh kind of disparage the

3353
02:24:12,590 --> 02:24:10,500
uh spaceship from other planets yeah

3354
02:24:15,110 --> 02:24:12,600
yeah that was my first argument against

3355
02:24:16,790 --> 02:24:15,120
it right but that doesn't now that

3356
02:24:20,150 --> 02:24:16,800
argument has to go away right because

3357
02:24:22,790 --> 02:24:20,160
now ce5 is bringing in spacecraft from

3358
02:24:24,830 --> 02:24:22,800
another planet and when I ready to agree

3359
02:24:27,770 --> 02:24:24,840
they did the Nimitz thing I read Ria's

3360
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:27,780
book about that back in the day when I

3361
02:24:32,450 --> 02:24:29,760
was a meditation instructor of course he

3362
02:24:34,969 --> 02:24:32,460
had me he had me long before he said the

3363
02:24:38,030 --> 02:24:34,979
word meditation my point is that

3364
02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:38,040
logically there is no connection between

3365
02:24:43,190 --> 02:24:40,319
rationally logically no connection

3366
02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:43,200
between what you said in terms of you

3367
02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:44,640
know there's some kind of Consciousness

3368
02:24:49,130 --> 02:24:46,800
Connection that's directing the

3369
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:49,140
spacecraft to there aren't really

3370
02:24:53,090 --> 02:24:51,120
spacecraft yeah there is those are two

3371
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:53,100
separate things now no these are both

3372
02:24:58,490 --> 02:24:55,439
well the your data I don't I don't see

3373
02:25:01,370 --> 02:24:58,500
how I don't see how your data in that

3374
02:25:03,170 --> 02:25:01,380
case contradicts the spacecraft from

3375
02:25:05,450 --> 02:25:03,180
another planet no no because because in

3376
02:25:08,570 --> 02:25:05,460
my view we are talking about two first

3377
02:25:11,950 --> 02:25:08,580
of all UFO or UAP is just uh you know

3378
02:25:14,030 --> 02:25:11,960
it's just that term don't ever say UAP

3379
02:25:16,309 --> 02:25:14,040
actually it's a better term because

3380
02:25:18,670 --> 02:25:16,319
they're they are oh it's mind control no

3381
02:25:21,349 --> 02:25:18,680
no it's they're unknown they are area

3382
02:25:24,110 --> 02:25:21,359
and they are phenomenal yes they're not

3383
02:25:26,030 --> 02:25:24,120
always objects they're not always so but

3384
02:25:29,750 --> 02:25:26,040
just so everybody knows when they say

3385
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:29,760
UAP what they're saying is

3386
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:31,920
we're going to divide and Rule again so

3387
02:25:35,809 --> 02:25:33,359
we have this group of people out there

3388
02:25:37,790 --> 02:25:35,819
who have some understanding some

3389
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:37,800
grounding in UFO they actually have some

3390
02:25:41,450 --> 02:25:39,359
knowledge because like you said that we

3391
02:25:43,490 --> 02:25:41,460
have this you know incredible open

3392
02:25:45,770 --> 02:25:43,500
Society where you can and they know

3393
02:25:47,210 --> 02:25:45,780
stuff about UFO now we're telling all

3394
02:25:50,030 --> 02:25:47,220
those people well you don't really know

3395
02:25:52,429 --> 02:25:50,040
anything because it's now all UAP it's a

3396
02:25:55,610 --> 02:25:52,439
name by any other roles it's the same

3397
02:25:57,590 --> 02:25:55,620
people who invented UAP who invented UFO

3398
02:25:59,450 --> 02:25:57,600
it's the same [\h__\h] people it's a

3399
02:26:02,389 --> 02:25:59,460
military term it's a game I don't care

3400
02:26:04,370 --> 02:26:02,399
exactly it's a military you gotta care

3401
02:26:05,929 --> 02:26:04,380
when I talk to Richard Dolan and I

3402
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:05,939
interviewed Richard Dolan and I gotta

3403
02:26:10,190 --> 02:26:07,680
Circle back and get to I hate the term

3404
02:26:12,349 --> 02:26:10,200
Circle back but I'm dying to talk to

3405
02:26:14,150 --> 02:26:12,359
Richard Dolan again when I talked to him

3406
02:26:16,610 --> 02:26:14,160
a couple years ago when the Nimitz thing

3407
02:26:19,010 --> 02:26:16,620
first broke and to me it seemed obvious

3408
02:26:21,889 --> 02:26:19,020
that this was a political psyop that

3409
02:26:24,410 --> 02:26:21,899
this whole disclosure the whole Peter

3410
02:26:27,950 --> 02:26:24,420
levender fake fake fake intelligence

3411
02:26:30,830 --> 02:26:27,960
intelligence Tom Delong fake fake fake

3412
02:26:34,550 --> 02:26:30,840
Lou Elizondo fake fake make that it was

3413
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:34,560
all just a a game and I went to to Dolan

3414
02:26:39,110 --> 02:26:36,960
and I said come on this is a political

3415
02:26:41,870 --> 02:26:39,120
psyop right I mean this is a

3416
02:26:44,210 --> 02:26:41,880
counterintelligence agent who's leading

3417
02:26:46,610 --> 02:26:44,220
who's coming out and saying here is the

3418
02:26:48,410 --> 02:26:46,620
truth you know we have Peter lavender

3419
02:26:50,090 --> 02:26:48,420
saying well I got together with Tom

3420
02:26:51,910 --> 02:26:50,100
Delong we decided the only way we could

3421
02:26:54,590 --> 02:26:51,920
get to the truth is to go to the CIA

3422
02:26:57,050 --> 02:26:54,600
aren't the alarm Bells going off in your

3423
02:26:59,929 --> 02:26:57,060
head and Dolan goes no no I really think

3424
02:27:01,610 --> 02:26:59,939
it's I think this is you know this is

3425
02:27:03,950 --> 02:27:01,620
this is legit this guy's a legit

3426
02:27:05,450 --> 02:27:03,960
whistleblower and I was dumbfounded I

3427
02:27:08,330 --> 02:27:05,460
still don't know so I don't know if he

3428
02:27:10,370 --> 02:27:08,340
just made a mistake or what but clearly

3429
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:10,380
at this point we all know it was we all

3430
02:27:14,990 --> 02:27:12,720
know it was fake we all know Louboutin

3431
02:27:17,150 --> 02:27:15,000
intelligence agent no it's the opposite

3432
02:27:20,410 --> 02:27:17,160
we all know that they achieved what they

3433
02:27:22,969 --> 02:27:20,420
wanted they wanted to get the UFO thing

3434
02:27:25,309 --> 02:27:22,979
whitewashed in the open for whatever

3435
02:27:29,210 --> 02:27:25,319
selfish reasons they had because they're

3436
02:27:31,610 --> 02:27:29,220
not of course Jesus and they went with a

3437
02:27:33,889 --> 02:27:31,620
method that that work now was that

3438
02:27:35,809 --> 02:27:33,899
hijacked or endorsed by some part of the

3439
02:27:38,090 --> 02:27:35,819
power elite probably doesn't matter they

3440
02:27:41,210 --> 02:27:38,100
achieved what they wanted which was to

3441
02:27:43,550 --> 02:27:41,220
make it out and open now they achieved

3442
02:27:46,849 --> 02:27:43,560
it too little credit has gone to the Tom

3443
02:27:49,969 --> 02:27:46,859
de longforks for this you you attack

3444
02:27:52,250 --> 02:27:49,979
them for the fact that New York Times

3445
02:27:53,630 --> 02:27:52,260
Etc has written about it but at the same

3446
02:27:55,969 --> 02:27:53,640
time that's what everybody's been

3447
02:27:58,429 --> 02:27:55,979
bitching about now my local newspaper

3448
02:28:00,830 --> 02:27:58,439
writing about it I can finally ask any

3449
02:28:02,750 --> 02:28:00,840
guest I want at the UFO question and

3450
02:28:06,050 --> 02:28:02,760
they won't recoil from it because

3451
02:28:07,610 --> 02:28:06,060
everybody know knows it's clean now that

3452
02:28:09,710 --> 02:28:07,620
doesn't it's not an either or here it

3453
02:28:11,090 --> 02:28:09,720
doesn't mean that these are Jesus Heroes

3454
02:28:13,130 --> 02:28:11,100
but you know what we're discussing

3455
02:28:15,170 --> 02:28:13,140
something that why do we always end up

3456
02:28:18,170 --> 02:28:15,180
discussing whether they are a psyop I

3457
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:18,180
think it's incrementally less important

3458
02:28:23,330 --> 02:28:19,920
and interesting than what I wanted to

3459
02:28:26,150 --> 02:28:23,340
discuss namely the nature of the uaps

3460
02:28:29,570 --> 02:28:26,160
and I have a show now that's not out yet

3461
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:29,580
it's called uaps explained okay and

3462
02:28:33,950 --> 02:28:32,399
that's a pretty bold statement yeah but

3463
02:28:37,309 --> 02:28:33,960
they are I'm not saying it's the only

3464
02:28:39,650 --> 02:28:37,319
explanation I'm not saying we say who

3465
02:28:42,950 --> 02:28:39,660
they are or where they come from but

3466
02:28:45,469 --> 02:28:42,960
David's reader definitely explains how

3467
02:28:47,870 --> 02:28:45,479
they are working and both him and me

3468
02:28:50,270 --> 02:28:47,880
kind of agree based on the data you

3469
02:28:52,190 --> 02:28:50,280
you've probably seen the feather

3470
02:28:55,010 --> 02:28:52,200
incident footage Etc

3471
02:28:58,670 --> 02:28:55,020
they look much more like entities than

3472
02:29:02,270 --> 02:28:58,680
they do uh crafts most of them uh they

3473
02:29:04,670 --> 02:29:02,280
look like fish in an aquarium and we

3474
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:04,680
discussed how they they can be

3475
02:29:11,150 --> 02:29:08,000
actually alive because we know that

3476
02:29:12,889 --> 02:29:11,160
already down on earth when they they now

3477
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:12,899
have come out and said yeah we are

3478
02:29:19,610 --> 02:29:16,160
taking uh we're measuring

3479
02:29:22,010 --> 02:29:19,620
UV frequencies and we're seeing what can

3480
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:22,020
be defined as life forms there this is

3481
02:29:27,469 --> 02:29:25,680
rather new but this fits with what me

3482
02:29:29,990 --> 02:29:27,479
and him has been thinking all this time

3483
02:29:32,690 --> 02:29:30,000
namely that these are and this explains

3484
02:29:36,410 --> 02:29:32,700
why the military can have the audacity

3485
02:29:38,750 --> 02:29:36,420
to shoot at them to they completed this

3486
02:29:42,110 --> 02:29:38,760
way if the military really thought these

3487
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:42,120
were humanoids in spacecrafts from

3488
02:29:46,510 --> 02:29:45,120
another place they would freak out it

3489
02:29:48,349 --> 02:29:46,520
would be a completely different

3490
02:29:50,809 --> 02:29:48,359
discussion than what we're actually

3491
02:29:53,210 --> 02:29:50,819
having it's as if the military knows

3492
02:29:54,590 --> 02:29:53,220
they post no real threat and that's why

3493
02:29:56,389 --> 02:29:54,600
they're trying to be this tough guy

3494
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:56,399
against them but of course like you say

3495
02:30:04,190 --> 02:30:00,720
they have some aspects in their nature

3496
02:30:07,010 --> 02:30:04,200
that far surpasses our little ant kind

3497
02:30:08,389 --> 02:30:07,020
of thing so I'm saying that this

3498
02:30:11,929 --> 02:30:08,399
phenomenon which is a terminology

3499
02:30:14,690 --> 02:30:11,939
encompasses many different unknowns one

3500
02:30:17,690 --> 02:30:14,700
of them is also a mechanical

3501
02:30:21,230 --> 02:30:17,700
technological aspect because we know for

3502
02:30:23,030 --> 02:30:21,240
sure there are crafts wherever they come

3503
02:30:26,570 --> 02:30:23,040
from wherever they are operating them

3504
02:30:28,969 --> 02:30:26,580
and I think the huge majority of these

3505
02:30:31,849 --> 02:30:28,979
crafts are from Earth

3506
02:30:34,610 --> 02:30:31,859
they are and they may be actually they

3507
02:30:36,590 --> 02:30:34,620
may have studied because Serena and I

3508
02:30:39,650 --> 02:30:36,600
dare you to listen to the show explains

3509
02:30:41,870 --> 02:30:39,660
how it works and they he they may have

3510
02:30:45,050 --> 02:30:41,880
studied these entities whatever they are

3511
02:30:47,630 --> 02:30:45,060
and then converted it to technology to

3512
02:30:50,630 --> 02:30:47,640
mechanics that may be one but we also

3513
02:30:52,610 --> 02:30:50,640
have the ancient connection and when you

3514
02:30:54,770 --> 02:30:52,620
say oh the ancient the Africans knew yes

3515
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:54,780
but it's not class that they were apes

3516
02:30:59,630 --> 02:30:56,640
and someone came and enlightened them

3517
02:31:01,910 --> 02:30:59,640
it's that they are a remnant of an

3518
02:31:04,190 --> 02:31:01,920
ancient civilization that not only had

3519
02:31:07,610 --> 02:31:04,200
his knowledge but also mastered space

3520
02:31:09,530 --> 02:31:07,620
travel I get you I don't understand why

3521
02:31:11,570 --> 02:31:09,540
the reverse engineering of alien craft

3522
02:31:14,150 --> 02:31:11,580
gets how it how that gets you anywhere

3523
02:31:16,929 --> 02:31:14,160
in terms of this discussion absolutely

3524
02:31:20,150 --> 02:31:16,939
we've reverse engineered alien craft

3525
02:31:23,150 --> 02:31:20,160
there's no bodies and there's no craft

3526
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:23,160
pointing to alien at this time where

3527
02:31:27,290 --> 02:31:25,439
there are claims you just said you just

3528
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:27,300
said we reverse engineered our

3529
02:31:33,830 --> 02:31:30,720
technology is based from entities or

3530
02:31:38,090 --> 02:31:33,840
ancient Tech yes but but why not why not

3531
02:31:40,130 --> 02:31:38,100
Bob Lazar in uh Area 51 and where he

3532
02:31:43,330 --> 02:31:40,140
worked on the craft why not uh Stephen

3533
02:31:46,250 --> 02:31:43,340
Greer who says he's interviewed real

3534
02:31:48,530 --> 02:31:46,260
when he says these are aliens he even

3535
02:31:50,809 --> 02:31:48,540
says it himself I'm speculating his ass

3536
02:31:53,510 --> 02:31:50,819
I don't know he says I he says I've seen

3537
02:31:57,790 --> 02:31:53,520
nine different craft uh Richard uh

3538
02:32:00,290 --> 02:31:57,800
Stephen Greer but the point is

3539
02:32:02,450 --> 02:32:00,300
it's such a loose argument that you're

3540
02:32:05,389 --> 02:32:02,460
making he says that he's that he has

3541
02:32:08,389 --> 02:32:05,399
seen bodies and he has seen autopsy but

3542
02:32:11,030 --> 02:32:08,399
take that out for a second says that yes

3543
02:32:13,250 --> 02:32:11,040
and he said his first time he said his

3544
02:32:14,990 --> 02:32:13,260
first day on the job he walked past a a

3545
02:32:16,429 --> 02:32:15,000
room and there's a window and he saw the

3546
02:32:18,110 --> 02:32:16,439
alien bodies and he later talked to

3547
02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:18,120
people and they said here's how many we

3548
02:32:22,010 --> 02:32:20,399
have and Stephen Greer you know you just

3549
02:32:23,929 --> 02:32:22,020
listened to that interview he said he's

3550
02:32:25,670 --> 02:32:23,939
interviewed multiple people who said

3551
02:32:27,530 --> 02:32:25,680
that we have this many craft and this

3552
02:32:30,889 --> 02:32:27,540
many bodies and some of them were alive

3553
02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:30,899
and I followed his press conferences I

3554
02:32:35,809 --> 02:32:33,359
know these people he he has

3555
02:32:38,570 --> 02:32:35,819
um helped bring forward now all of them

3556
02:32:41,330 --> 02:32:38,580
aren't solid uh of course these info

3557
02:32:44,270 --> 02:32:41,340
people are there too but yeah basically

3558
02:32:47,030 --> 02:32:44,280
he did he did do a huge Lifting for

3559
02:32:49,849 --> 02:32:47,040
ufology you had the disclosure project

3560
02:32:51,530 --> 02:32:49,859
you had a Citizens discussion thing that

3561
02:32:54,490 --> 02:32:51,540
Dolan was involved with and this other

3562
02:32:56,809 --> 02:32:54,500
guy was I forgot his name euphorologist

3563
02:33:01,130 --> 02:32:56,819
you had the secret space program

3564
02:33:03,170 --> 02:33:01,140
conferences before the fake one that was

3565
02:33:07,010 --> 02:33:03,180
done by will cook and Corey good and

3566
02:33:09,230 --> 02:33:07,020
those so that's three important goal

3567
02:33:11,030 --> 02:33:09,240
posts in disclosure and then the fourth

3568
02:33:14,690 --> 02:33:11,040
is the Tom Delong project that everybody

3569
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:14,700
still insists is some kind of psyop but

3570
02:33:18,410 --> 02:33:16,560
if it's a psyop it's the worst type in

3571
02:33:21,230 --> 02:33:18,420
the world because the only thing they've

3572
02:33:24,349 --> 02:33:21,240
achieved since then is to annoy Pentagon

3573
02:33:26,870 --> 02:33:24,359
because Pentagon now now is forced to

3574
02:33:29,690 --> 02:33:26,880
try to spin the entire thing into is the

3575
02:33:32,630 --> 02:33:29,700
Russians and the Chinese because they

3576
02:33:34,849 --> 02:33:32,640
can't put the spirit back into the lamp

3577
02:33:37,250 --> 02:33:34,859
and say there's no thing as a UFO so

3578
02:33:39,650 --> 02:33:37,260
that has been achieved and if it was a

3579
02:33:42,110 --> 02:33:39,660
psyop I applaud it because it's [\h__\h]

3580
02:33:44,270 --> 02:33:42,120
hard time people take the phenomena

3581
02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:44,280
seriously so we can start to discuss

3582
02:33:48,650 --> 02:33:46,560
what's behind it which we can do freely

3583
02:33:50,870 --> 02:33:48,660
now not just on this little inside

3584
02:33:53,030 --> 02:33:50,880
baseball show we're doing today but I

3585
02:33:55,070 --> 02:33:53,040
could do it with any guest I have no

3586
02:33:57,830 --> 02:33:55,080
matter why they're coming on thanks to

3587
02:34:00,349 --> 02:33:57,840
that effort and honestly my take on it

3588
02:34:03,830 --> 02:34:00,359
it hasn't changed much I still think

3589
02:34:05,570 --> 02:34:03,840
that these insiders did it partially for

3590
02:34:07,570 --> 02:34:05,580
selfish reasons but also partially

3591
02:34:09,770 --> 02:34:07,580
because they've always been you for nuts

3592
02:34:11,690 --> 02:34:09,780
halput of all these people have always

3593
02:34:14,030 --> 02:34:11,700
been into this thing and they wanted

3594
02:34:15,770 --> 02:34:14,040
this out there and they managed it and

3595
02:34:18,349 --> 02:34:15,780
they wanted to profit from it I don't

3596
02:34:21,469 --> 02:34:18,359
know if they managed that but and maybe

3597
02:34:23,809 --> 02:34:21,479
they were also played is to some extent

3598
02:34:25,429 --> 02:34:23,819
maybe maybe there was a faction among

3599
02:34:27,410 --> 02:34:25,439
the elite that wanted it out and they

3600
02:34:29,450 --> 02:34:27,420
backed them maybe I don't know these

3601
02:34:32,990 --> 02:34:29,460
things but what I do know is

3602
02:34:35,750 --> 02:34:33,000
it's annoying the neocons to no end you

3603
02:34:38,389 --> 02:34:35,760
see the it's not hard to see the deniers

3604
02:34:41,270 --> 02:34:38,399
are still at it and they're trying to

3605
02:34:43,550 --> 02:34:41,280
put spin this into something that can

3606
02:34:45,410 --> 02:34:43,560
serve them because it doesn't serve them

3607
02:34:48,170 --> 02:34:45,420
that everybody is now interested in it

3608
02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:48,180
so you have yet to convince me of two

3609
02:34:53,330 --> 02:34:50,399
things Alex and I am open to it number

3610
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:53,340
one explain how this is a sinister's

3611
02:34:57,410 --> 02:34:55,439
desire but not just what it seems to be

3612
02:34:59,809 --> 02:34:57,420
according to Occam's racer that's number

3613
02:35:02,590 --> 02:34:59,819
one and number two where do you get this

3614
02:35:06,889 --> 02:35:02,600
alien from and with that I mean

3615
02:35:09,230 --> 02:35:06,899
3D humanoids on a different planet I

3616
02:35:11,929 --> 02:35:09,240
I've never seen a link even when I and

3617
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:11,939
Dolan is an adherent to this and I

3618
02:35:16,849 --> 02:35:14,160
pushed him first time I had him on and

3619
02:35:18,530 --> 02:35:16,859
he had to admit that well okay it's

3620
02:35:20,809 --> 02:35:18,540
going by assumption because there's no

3621
02:35:23,510 --> 02:35:20,819
evidence connecting it to there's a lot

3622
02:35:25,550 --> 02:35:23,520
of inference wife his wife is a first

3623
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:25,560
person witness to it so yeah but that

3624
02:35:31,130 --> 02:35:28,800
doesn't mean it's an alien yes well this

3625
02:35:34,190 --> 02:35:31,140
is not necessarily aliens okay so so

3626
02:35:37,250 --> 02:35:34,200
that for the the new skeptico the

3627
02:35:39,469 --> 02:35:37,260
private party's skeptical okay we can

3628
02:35:42,050 --> 02:35:39,479
start right there and I'll drop a name

3629
02:35:46,610 --> 02:35:42,060
for you that you can go everyone should

3630
02:35:48,590 --> 02:35:46,620
go and read Jeremy McGowan and his blog

3631
02:35:50,630 --> 02:35:48,600
post on Lou Elizondo and the truth about

3632
02:35:52,610 --> 02:35:50,640
everything Jeremy well I was almost

3633
02:35:54,050 --> 02:35:52,620
going to make this show about the

3634
02:35:55,730 --> 02:35:54,060
interviews I haven't done this year

3635
02:35:58,309 --> 02:35:55,740
because Jeremy McGowan is the first

3636
02:36:00,050 --> 02:35:58,319
person who's legitimately ghosted me he

3637
02:36:02,150 --> 02:36:00,060
was so excited to be on the show he's

3638
02:36:03,710 --> 02:36:02,160
like oh it's an honor I don't know why I

3639
02:36:05,570 --> 02:36:03,720
thought it was an honor but it was he's

3640
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:05,580
on the show we're right there we're

3641
02:36:10,130 --> 02:36:07,680
ready to record doesn't show up just

3642
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:10,140
falls off the Earth doesn't respond and

3643
02:36:14,030 --> 02:36:12,479
the person who connected with me with

3644
02:36:15,770 --> 02:36:14,040
him starts communicating he's like well

3645
02:36:18,230 --> 02:36:15,780
yeah you know I'm kind of doing this

3646
02:36:19,790 --> 02:36:18,240
kind of do that so but everyone should

3647
02:36:22,010 --> 02:36:19,800
still read his article and the other one

3648
02:36:23,750 --> 02:36:22,020
is on the election anyways so okay so

3649
02:36:26,809 --> 02:36:23,760
that's speeches he doesn't want to back

3650
02:36:28,730 --> 02:36:26,819
up his uh his accusations oh no his

3651
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:28,740
accusations are Rock Solid you go listen

3652
02:36:32,530 --> 02:36:30,720
to him he has all proof has been laid

3653
02:36:35,170 --> 02:36:32,540
out why is he afraid then well yeah

3654
02:36:38,270 --> 02:36:35,180
People Are People Are People okay okay

3655
02:36:39,770 --> 02:36:38,280
predictions yes I guess predictions and

3656
02:36:42,290 --> 02:36:39,780
tell us what's going on without media

3657
02:36:45,530 --> 02:36:42,300
United Okay okay so okay predictions

3658
02:36:48,110 --> 02:36:45,540
damn let's not be you

3659
02:36:49,490 --> 02:36:48,120
start with me yeah don't you have any

3660
02:36:53,389 --> 02:36:49,500
predictions

3661
02:36:56,870 --> 02:36:53,399
stuff that we talked about during the

3662
02:36:59,630 --> 02:36:56,880
show in terms of I think things are much

3663
02:37:02,330 --> 02:36:59,640
more uh complicated at a global level

3664
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:02,340
than we think and that I do think

3665
02:37:08,750 --> 02:37:05,040
there's a light there's on a practical

3666
02:37:10,250 --> 02:37:08,760
kind of uh invest uh make money kind of

3667
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,260
thing there's a light at the end of the

3668
02:37:15,290 --> 02:37:12,720
tunnel in terms of the globalist agenda

3669
02:37:17,870 --> 02:37:15,300
it doesn't seem to be moving forward the

3670
02:37:19,610 --> 02:37:17,880
way we thought in an inevitable way and

3671
02:37:22,190 --> 02:37:19,620
that will be revealed further and

3672
02:37:24,530 --> 02:37:22,200
further in the next year it's losing

3673
02:37:27,889 --> 02:37:24,540
steam they're not going to print 30

3674
02:37:30,590 --> 02:37:27,899
trillion dollars in uh in stupid green

3675
02:37:32,330 --> 02:37:30,600
Echo stuff and that is what they were

3676
02:37:34,910 --> 02:37:32,340
playing for and when they lose the

3677
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:34,920
ability to do that and when the dollar

3678
02:37:41,090 --> 02:37:39,120
does kind of get Supremacy and the leash

3679
02:37:43,490 --> 02:37:41,100
that's on China gets pulled Tighter and

3680
02:37:45,410 --> 02:37:43,500
tidal tighter the choke chain it's going

3681
02:37:46,790 --> 02:37:45,420
to be back to business as usual which

3682
02:37:48,830 --> 02:37:46,800
some people are going to like and some

3683
02:37:50,330 --> 02:37:48,840
people aren't but from my rich ass

3684
02:37:53,520 --> 02:37:50,340
perspective and Del Mar California

3685
02:37:54,710 --> 02:37:53,530
that's just fine yeah

3686
02:37:57,469 --> 02:37:54,720
[Music]

3687
02:38:00,530 --> 02:37:57,479
well I think it's easier to predict next

3688
02:38:02,389 --> 02:38:00,540
year than the year after because there

3689
02:38:05,330 --> 02:38:02,399
is an Awakening going on and that

3690
02:38:08,150 --> 02:38:05,340
Awakening may be hijacked when Trump

3691
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:08,160
takes over again if he takes over or the

3692
02:38:12,590 --> 02:38:10,319
Republicans put it like that

3693
02:38:14,330 --> 02:38:12,600
would be better if they had won both

3694
02:38:17,330 --> 02:38:14,340
houses because we would see a much

3695
02:38:19,550 --> 02:38:17,340
bigger dishwashing of um the covert

3696
02:38:21,710 --> 02:38:19,560
thing but they don't underestimate the

3697
02:38:24,290 --> 02:38:21,720
enormous Awakening going on right now

3698
02:38:26,030 --> 02:38:24,300
Elon Musk what he's doing I I think he

3699
02:38:29,450 --> 02:38:26,040
will regret it but he's opening The

3700
02:38:31,610 --> 02:38:29,460
Floodgate basically at Twitter now you

3701
02:38:33,770 --> 02:38:31,620
can put I sent you the video did you see

3702
02:38:35,929 --> 02:38:33,780
it the one called certainly there yeah

3703
02:38:38,330 --> 02:38:35,939
yeah yeah these things are going to

3704
02:38:39,770 --> 02:38:38,340
force open it's it's actually doctors to

3705
02:38:42,110 --> 02:38:39,780
what I said last year and that's that

3706
02:38:44,809 --> 02:38:42,120
when you feel it on your own body

3707
02:38:46,790 --> 02:38:44,819
that's when you can't have the luxury of

3708
02:38:49,370 --> 02:38:46,800
you know entertaining a problem

3709
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,380
academically because now it's hard on

3710
02:38:55,910 --> 02:38:52,800
reality and this is a blessing in

3711
02:38:59,330 --> 02:38:55,920
disguise no just like the Omicron kind

3712
02:39:01,429 --> 02:38:59,340
of took the power out of kovid So

3713
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:01,439
eventually people are waking up to that

3714
02:39:06,770 --> 02:39:04,080
is not that big a deal anymore

3715
02:39:10,250 --> 02:39:06,780
if it indeed ever was for most of us for

3716
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:10,260
somia it sure is but um same vein I

3717
02:39:15,830 --> 02:39:12,479
think the vaccine reality because that's

3718
02:39:17,630 --> 02:39:15,840
such a hard long before Kobe they've

3719
02:39:19,670 --> 02:39:17,640
been pushing the vaccine thing that you

3720
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:19,680
couldn't question it you wear uh

3721
02:39:25,250 --> 02:39:21,840
completely deranged Outcast if you

3722
02:39:27,590 --> 02:39:25,260
question vaccines at all now the reason

3723
02:39:29,690 --> 02:39:27,600
many have covered up the problem with

3724
02:39:31,969 --> 02:39:29,700
the vaccine is precisely because the

3725
02:39:34,070 --> 02:39:31,979
low-level people who are innocent like a

3726
02:39:35,990 --> 02:39:34,080
nurse or whatever and they think oh my

3727
02:39:38,690 --> 02:39:36,000
God there's so many people getting hurt

3728
02:39:40,730 --> 02:39:38,700
but I can't I have to deny this I can't

3729
02:39:42,830 --> 02:39:40,740
support this coming out because then

3730
02:39:45,830 --> 02:39:42,840
people will question all the vaccines

3731
02:39:48,230 --> 02:39:45,840
and then you know I want the good thing

3732
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:48,240
and I believe the data I have is good

3733
02:39:52,429 --> 02:39:50,640
therefore I do a bad thing to cover up

3734
02:39:54,230 --> 02:39:52,439
for what I believe will be a worse thing

3735
02:39:56,510 --> 02:39:54,240
and they don't understand that they are

3736
02:39:59,570 --> 02:39:56,520
just done being useful tools right and

3737
02:40:02,210 --> 02:39:59,580
this is for the first time is cracking

3738
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,220
people are gonna do that they are going

3739
02:40:06,410 --> 02:40:04,319
to question so much more not just other

3740
02:40:08,090 --> 02:40:06,420
vaccines but everything to do with the

3741
02:40:10,190 --> 02:40:08,100
pandemic and then they're going to start

3742
02:40:13,670 --> 02:40:10,200
questioning other things too like the

3743
02:40:16,130 --> 02:40:13,680
money level and everything so I'm not

3744
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:16,140
saying it will be a global Awakening I'm

3745
02:40:21,530 --> 02:40:19,439
still back to where I said that we have

3746
02:40:23,389 --> 02:40:21,540
to go by correlations many people will

3747
02:40:25,730 --> 02:40:23,399
wake up with one thing others to another

3748
02:40:27,889 --> 02:40:25,740
but it's going to be a critical mass too

3749
02:40:31,309 --> 02:40:27,899
many are gonna be critical to the powers

3750
02:40:33,050 --> 02:40:31,319
that be because never mind which field

3751
02:40:35,210 --> 02:40:33,060
people are waking up to you know where

3752
02:40:37,250 --> 02:40:35,220
the crumbs always end up it's the same

3753
02:40:39,530 --> 02:40:37,260
[\h__\h] power a little I should say the

3754
02:40:43,010 --> 02:40:39,540
Stooges of the real power elite the the

3755
02:40:45,889 --> 02:40:43,020
the symbols the puppets of the real

3756
02:40:47,690 --> 02:40:45,899
Puppet Masters and when they fall

3757
02:40:49,610 --> 02:40:47,700
that's going to be so interesting so

3758
02:40:51,889 --> 02:40:49,620
yeah next year I think it's going to be

3759
02:40:53,270 --> 02:40:51,899
one big step in that direction and that

3760
02:40:56,210 --> 02:40:53,280
will help

3761
02:40:59,330 --> 02:40:56,220
on the geopolitical level it will create

3762
02:41:02,630 --> 02:40:59,340
problems there too because

3763
02:41:05,809 --> 02:41:02,640
um what they really have per today is

3764
02:41:07,790 --> 02:41:05,819
the media is the information whereas the

3765
02:41:11,150 --> 02:41:07,800
spin is a propaganda that's where the

3766
02:41:11,690 --> 02:41:11,160
West is strong as per today and

3767
02:41:13,969 --> 02:41:11,700
um

3768
02:41:16,969 --> 02:41:13,979
although there are back and forth back

3769
02:41:18,590 --> 02:41:16,979
and forth they do so many you know for

3770
02:41:22,690 --> 02:41:18,600
example the the north stream everybody

3771
02:41:25,849 --> 02:41:22,700
know now it was the me5 and CIA together

3772
02:41:28,969 --> 02:41:25,859
so when in real time people are waking

3773
02:41:30,590 --> 02:41:28,979
up to these things so quickly I I don't

3774
02:41:33,230 --> 02:41:30,600
see how they can keep it going anymore

3775
02:41:35,630 --> 02:41:33,240
it's like we're reaching a critical more

3776
02:41:39,110 --> 02:41:35,640
so a better term they talk about this

3777
02:41:42,469 --> 02:41:39,120
Advent Horizon thing it seems to be very

3778
02:41:45,830 --> 02:41:42,479
short in the distance on so many levels

3779
02:41:47,630 --> 02:41:45,840
and I'm just happy I'm around to see it

3780
02:41:49,309 --> 02:41:47,640
because it can you know even if people

3781
02:41:52,130 --> 02:41:49,319
wake up and they let's say they

3782
02:41:54,530 --> 02:41:52,140
overthrow the power elite

3783
02:41:56,570 --> 02:41:54,540
what could be replaced it could be worse

3784
02:42:00,110 --> 02:41:56,580
I'm not saying it's like Hallelujah time

3785
02:42:02,210 --> 02:42:00,120
but um like the Chinese said we live in

3786
02:42:04,190 --> 02:42:02,220
interesting times indeed and I'm happy

3787
02:42:06,889 --> 02:42:04,200
to to be in for the ride

3788
02:42:09,349 --> 02:42:06,899
we have no Embrace changes yes we Have

3789
02:42:11,690 --> 02:42:09,359
No alternative do we well I guess we

3790
02:42:13,870 --> 02:42:11,700
could always uh you know we could do an

3791
02:42:17,570 --> 02:42:13,880
abstain you know

3792
02:42:20,450 --> 02:42:17,580
but no you know uh uh my one of my

3793
02:42:22,370 --> 02:42:20,460
spiritual uh I don't know guideposts guy

3794
02:42:25,130 --> 02:42:22,380
really like neem curly Baba you know the

3795
02:42:27,290 --> 02:42:25,140
ramdas uh Guru in India you know when

3796
02:42:29,510 --> 02:42:27,300
the guys first went there and and met

3797
02:42:31,849 --> 02:42:29,520
him and they were dropping acid and just

3798
02:42:33,889 --> 02:42:31,859
one do anything they could do to become

3799
02:42:36,110 --> 02:42:33,899
enlightened he said oh it's it's easy

3800
02:42:37,610 --> 02:42:36,120
see that rock there go tie it around

3801
02:42:39,950 --> 02:42:37,620
your neck and throw it in the lake over

3802
02:42:42,110 --> 02:42:39,960
there yeah exactly and he'll he'll get

3803
02:42:44,809 --> 02:42:42,120
it you know right and it's like this is

3804
02:42:47,150 --> 02:42:44,819
your discussion the last point about we

3805
02:42:48,590 --> 02:42:47,160
all know debt so once we put that's an

3806
02:42:50,750 --> 02:42:48,600
important boundary and that's what

3807
02:42:52,429 --> 02:42:50,760
you're pointing out uh last time in the

3808
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:52,439
crossing of that boundary and then yeah

3809
02:42:56,330 --> 02:42:54,240
it draws the line that we are on the

3810
02:42:58,969 --> 02:42:56,340
other side of that so all the decisions

3811
02:43:01,010 --> 02:42:58,979
we make are yes we live in

3812
02:43:03,290 --> 02:43:01,020
interesting times are not interesting

3813
02:43:05,570 --> 02:43:03,300
times it doesn't matter we just are here

3814
02:43:08,210 --> 02:43:05,580
right now and trying to let the light

3815
02:43:11,690 --> 02:43:08,220
shine through but so many people can

3816
02:43:13,790 --> 02:43:11,700
choose to metaphorically take that stone

3817
02:43:16,370 --> 02:43:13,800
and throw themselves in the lake oh well

3818
02:43:18,410 --> 02:43:16,380
they can choose to remain in the forest

3819
02:43:20,450 --> 02:43:18,420
refusing to see anything not

3820
02:43:22,790 --> 02:43:20,460
understanding what and those you know

3821
02:43:24,910 --> 02:43:22,800
what the most dangerous people today are

3822
02:43:28,849 --> 02:43:24,920
the lowest informed

3823
02:43:32,270 --> 02:43:28,859
because because they are the engine they

3824
02:43:35,870 --> 02:43:32,280
are the gasoline in the engine that

3825
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:35,880
whoever are screwing with us on all

3826
02:43:41,870 --> 02:43:38,640
these different levels are reliable

3827
02:43:44,830 --> 02:43:41,880
so so in and this is why we don't have

3828
02:43:47,690 --> 02:43:44,840
the luxury Alex of stopping

3829
02:43:50,330 --> 02:43:47,700
exploiting the rare opportunity we have

3830
02:43:52,610 --> 02:43:50,340
to reach people it's so rare if you look

3831
02:43:54,650 --> 02:43:52,620
historically 100 years ago you and me

3832
02:43:56,330 --> 02:43:54,660
would have to go with these signs saying

3833
02:43:58,250 --> 02:43:56,340
the end is night through the streets and

3834
02:44:01,010 --> 02:43:58,260
ring the bell that's the best we could

3835
02:44:03,830 --> 02:44:01,020
do to reach people so people have the

3836
02:44:06,530 --> 02:44:03,840
option to find us and for me I go by

3837
02:44:09,050 --> 02:44:06,540
those who particularly take to my taste

3838
02:44:11,630 --> 02:44:09,060
which is not mainstream at all and then

3839
02:44:13,849 --> 02:44:11,640
we need someone like you who can cater

3840
02:44:16,610 --> 02:44:13,859
to your approach and then we're all

3841
02:44:18,530 --> 02:44:16,620
Cooks in in in the big machine in the

3842
02:44:21,290 --> 02:44:18,540
good machine

3843
02:44:23,990 --> 02:44:21,300
will you continue to be an inspiration

3844
02:44:25,610 --> 02:44:24,000
to God point I love talking to you you

3845
02:44:28,969 --> 02:44:25,620
give me a new tagline I mean skeptical

3846
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:28,979
please unsubscribe please unsubscribe

3847
02:44:34,969 --> 02:44:31,520
please do not share or like

3848
02:44:38,530 --> 02:44:34,979
it was an inevitable place you had to

3849
02:44:41,389 --> 02:44:38,540
end up right exactly

3850
02:44:43,849 --> 02:44:41,399
yeah yeah you can afford doing that too

3851
02:44:46,429 --> 02:44:43,859
you can afford that experiment but yeah

3852
02:44:48,650 --> 02:44:46,439
maybe you should go that route I'm kind

3853
02:44:51,590 --> 02:44:48,660
of going the opposite one I'm kind of

3854
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:51,600
having multiple parties going on hoping

3855
02:44:55,370 --> 02:44:53,520
they will rub off on each other hoping

3856
02:44:58,190 --> 02:44:55,380
they will create some kind of resonance

3857
02:45:00,170 --> 02:44:58,200
some kind of synergy effect

3858
02:45:03,889 --> 02:45:00,180
uh and you want to go deep deep deep

3859
02:45:05,929 --> 02:45:03,899
deep into the core of it and I think

3860
02:45:07,790 --> 02:45:05,939
both are warranted so

3861
02:45:09,230 --> 02:45:07,800
we're going to be great that we keep in

3862
02:45:11,450 --> 02:45:09,240
touch and

3863
02:45:14,450 --> 02:45:11,460
you know feel a finger on the pulse for

3864
02:45:16,190 --> 02:45:14,460
every now and then absolutely but we're

3865
02:45:17,450 --> 02:45:16,200
not done with the alien discussion I

3866
02:45:19,790 --> 02:45:17,460
want to return to that in the future

3867
02:45:24,050 --> 02:45:19,800
okay all right I haven't even made my

3868
02:45:26,270 --> 02:45:24,060
case all right oh yeah great

3869
02:45:29,389 --> 02:45:26,280
okay thanks a lot for for this session

3870
02:45:32,929 --> 02:45:29,399
and and see you at the end of

3871
02:45:35,030 --> 02:45:32,939
this part of the travel awesome L

3872
02:45:40,849 --> 02:45:35,040
terrific thank you so much okay bro

3873
02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:42,650
thanks again to Al for joining me today

3874
02:45:47,809 --> 02:45:45,359
on skeptico the one question I had to

3875
02:45:51,230 --> 02:45:47,819
tee up from this show is what direction

3876
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:51,240
do you think skeptico should go in the

3877
02:45:57,469 --> 02:45:54,960
future I have some definite ideas about

3878
02:45:59,809 --> 02:45:57,479
how and when and if I should go forward

3879
02:46:02,809 --> 02:45:59,819
but I'd love to hear your thoughts too

3880
02:46:06,900 --> 02:46:02,819
so let me hear from you and until next

3881
02:46:18,950 --> 02:46:06,910
time take care and bye for now